Commentator Sean took offence to my comment about the eternal Russia and I felt trying to justify myself would really be counterproductive.
So I thought I would bring a different perspective to the claim.
Marrti Kari is a former colonel in Finnish Intelligence. Apart from losing some territory to the Soviets in the Winter War, Finland was never occupied by the Russians, so was spared most of the cultural trauma that Central Europe went through.
He has two good talks on You Tube about the Russian mindset which I would urge my readers to look at. Since everyone is time poor, the fist four minutes of this video explains a lot about Russia.
The interesting stuff begins at 6:37.
He also gives another good talk, How Russians Think and Why They Do What They Do and a summary of this talk can be found here.
25 comments:
Neonazi's are bad people. I wish you had retained the moral authority to put them in their place. Instead you doubled down.
I accept your surrender.
Are the Finns Neo-Nazi's?
No.
The Finn's experience with Russia does not justify YOUR hatred of Russia anymore than other people's rumored experiences with "subversion" justifies antisemitism.
@Sean
Russia does not justify YOUR hatred of Russia
I don't hate Russia, I'm a realist about it. Hate's got nothing to do with it.
Are people that say derogatory things about Israel full of hate or "realists?"
@SocPath:
This is the actual "realist" position on Russia: The US grand strategy should be "offshore balancing"-the US should promote a balance of power in the key regions of the world (Europe, East Asia, Persian Gulf), and prevent any one state from emerging as a hegemon in those regions, while the US should remain the hegemon in the Western Hemisphere, our backyard. The other regions of the world really don't matter. US forces should be deployed only to prevent a hegemon from emerging in Europe, East Asia, or the Gulf, or if our own hegemony is threated in the Americas.
So, the US goal in Europe is the prevention of an anti-US hegemon from emerging in the region. Unlike the USSR during the Cold War, Putin's Russia is far too weak to threaten to become such a hegemon. Conceivably, the US could back out of NATO, and the European states could build up their militaries and balance out Russia easily. (The Asia-Pacific region is different: a strong US presence is probably needed to balance out the PRC, its not clear Japan/ROK/ROC/ASEAN/Aus could do it on their own, and such an alliance would be prone to infighting without the US acting as a mediator).
Foggy Bottom and Langley are run by insane ideologues who think that "there will be perpetual peace if all states become democracies" and "authoritarian states are inherently irrational and there is a moral imperative to overthrow them" (ignoring the fact that half of our allies in the Cold War were authoritarian at any given point). Because they believe their own chiliastic dream-visions/ideological BS, the US acts in an aggressive fashion that risks escalating conflicts, and wastes my taxpayer money so Germany can have a welfare state without needing to pay for a real military.
Let me repeat, the people in charge of US foreign affairs really believe that they are working towards a utopia where all states are liberal democracies that respect "human rights" (including abortion and gay marriage, of course) and there are no more wars, and a militarily aggressive US is required for this utopia to come to pass. Its not just public relations, its what they actually believe. They are NUTS.
The truth about Russia is that Eastern Europe is the hick, barbarian, backwater part of Europe, inhabited by inbred weirdos who were unable to live in the nice parts of Europe and the Med. If these groups had merit, they would have conquered Italy or Germany and moved there. The Eastern Slav Christians and the Ost-Juden are the trailer-trash of Europe, and there's no reason to admire either group unless it is one's own heritage. This is why, despite my liturgical tastes, I could never start going to a Byzantine Catholic parish, like some Latin trads have done, much less become Eastern Orthodox.
Meanwhile, many anti-Semitic canards have some truth when applied to Eastern Jews (who are highly inbred and whose religion is a gnostic cult), but not when applied to "the Jews" per se (other Jews are simply high-IQ bourgeois white people from the Mediterranean, mixed with Western Europeans). The four-letter anti-Jewish slur was invented by German Jews, to describe Eastern Jews.
I am certainly not invested in a war between one group of hick slavs and inbred Eastern Jews and another, slightly different, group of the same, over petty nationalistic disputes. Croats are OK.
As has been said, let the neo-authoritarian globohomo and LGBQT fascists who occupy the major cities of the commonwealth, EU and US volunteer to fight with Ukrainian Neo-Nazis against the Russians. Let them each other.
I am well aware of the Finn perspective on the Russians. And historically quite valid. But missing out on the Spiritually corruptive influence of the GAE right now.
Would mean that priorities should shift. By all means pursue one's own country's interest. But at the expense of the Spiritual isn't really a victory.
If country integrity and Nationalism must include gay pride parades and transgenderism and other evils worthy of death that is the result of involvement in NATO and influenced by the Satanic soft-power.
This is the real flag of the GAE Empire:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-rainbow-idUSKBN2442EQ
Russia seems to have all the right enemies right now.
Is it really worth it?
@ John Rockwell
No.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3B4oLj5fQM
@Social Pathologist:
Another possible reason for hatred of Russia from the GAE:
https://twitter.com/amorfat83496806/status/1506992372940525569?cxt=HHwWgsC-xYXl9OkpAAAA
Supply of children for same sex couples cut off.
In addition to the banning of gay propaganda for children:
"The background of this is that in 2013, Russia passed a law banning gay propaganda towards minors. This came on the heels of the 2012 arrest of members of Pussy Riot, a female performance art collective, for sacrilegious acts at the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow. Three members of the group were sentenced to two years in prison each, with two of them serving their full sentences, and upon release they would face off against Putin in Season 3, Episode 3 of House of Cards.
The US response in the media to Pussy Riot and the anti-gay law was nothing short of hysterical, and coverage of Russia, a country that had previously been viewed largely with indifference by American elites, has never been the same. My impression is that the gay propaganda law may have gotten more coverage in the American press than any other event that happened in Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.
In the 2012 election, when Romney called Russia “our greatest geopolitical foe,” Obama famously responded that the 1980s called and it wanted its foreign policy back. This was before the gay propaganda law. Although it’s hard to prove that this was the turning point, as someone who was studying international relations at the time on a university campus and who paid close attention to American politics, it felt as if some Rubicon had been crossed and any move towards friendlier relations was impossible. By 2015, even before the rise of Trump, Putin was not the leader of a country, but a Hollywood villain.
In 2014, we saw the overthrow of Yanukovych, the Russian seizure of Crimea, and the beginning of the war in Eastern Ukraine. While this was a big deal to foreign policy hawks, it did not capture the liberal imagination in the same way that the gay propaganda law did. Russiagate required years of demonization in order to take off, and beginning in 2016 Putin became not only a homophobe and anti-feminist, but the man who may ultimately end American democracy."
https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/russia-as-the-great-satan-in-the?s=r
@Social Pathologist
Russian banned Gay adoption:
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2013/the-story-behind-russians-gay-adoption-ban
World Economic Forum, George Soros, Pentagon, CDC, Hunter Biden, Jeffrey Epstein, EcoHealth Alliance all linked to Ukrainian biolabs:
https://miamistandard.news/2022/03/24/exposed-world-economic-forum-george-soros-pentagon-cdc-hunter-biden-jeffrey-epstein-ecohealth-alliance-all-linked-to-ukrainian-biolabs/
More on Biolabs in Ukraine:
https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/24/biden-linked-company-partnered-with-ukraine-biolabs/
@John.
The Nazi's did lots of good stuff. For example, they were the first to introduce anti smoking programs and screening mammography. They pushed hard against modern architecture. The "strength through joy program" copied from the Italians, enabled many poor Germans to take holidays for the first time in their lives.
But taken in the balance, no person of good moral character, looking at the totality of the Nazi experience would call it good.
Likewise Putin HAS done a few good things, but the regime is rotten to the core.
Putin tried to enlist JK Rowling into his cause. Rowling has been a victim of cancel culture but even she with her problems did not take the bait. Some people are smart enough to recognise that the enemy of my enemy is not my friend.
"Critiques of Western cancel culture are possibly not best made by those currently slaughtering civilians for the crime of resistance, or who jail and poison their critics."
@Anon
The US grand strategy should be........
The US has serious internal problems, and its leadership class is a moral joke. The first thing the U.S needs is to get its own affairs in order.
and
The truth about Russia is that Eastern Europe is the hick, barbarian, backwater part of Europe, inhabited by inbred weirdos who were unable to live in the nice parts of Europe and the Med.
Facepalm.
Eastern Europe is a hell of a lot safer than many places in Western Europe and definitely the U.S. Prior to WW1 Eastern Europe was really beginning to rock. The three great tragedies of Eastern Europe: The collapse of the Habsburgs, the Nazi's and the Russian Communists gutted the civilised class of Eastern Europeans. I'm surprised that the perform as well as they do given the civilisational trauma. Had the US experienced what they did I don't think it would have fared that well.
Death to America, which poisons the world. Death to the West, the enemy of God and men.
"Critiques of Western cancel culture are possibly not best made by those currently slaughtering civilians for the crime of resistance, or who jail and poison their critics."
That would be correct if that was actually happening. But given their cauldron strategy and their humanitarian corridors strategy to drain the besieged areas of civilians and fleeing soldiers that they perfected in Syria. It would undermine their own strategy to kill civilians unless they have to.
I follow thesaker.is,
twitter.com/RWApodcast
Those Analysts:
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDuran
and Gonzalo Lira who is also on Youtube who actually is in Ukraine right now:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPxpPT4b4vnDlX0sBGz3r4Q
@Social Pathologist
"The collapse of the Habsburgs, the Nazi's and the Russian Communists gutted the civilised class of Eastern Europeans. I'm surprised that the perform as well as they do given the civilisational trauma. Had the US experienced what they did I don't think it would have fared that well."
Its like if Europe had all their Royal families killed like the Romanovs. And their Nobility liquidated by the Bolsheviks in the same way. While their women are demoted into prole status.
And the same massacres were done to their middle classes too. Leaving only the Proletariat and select communist intellectuals(who were also killed by Stalin in many cases) and the Government Bureaucrats elevated from peasant and worker stock:
"In Communist countries pedigree was very important. You couldn't get far in the party if you had any little kulak, noble or landowner ancestry. Only peasants and workers were trusted. Why? Because only peasants and workers could be trusted to be loyal. Rich people, or people with the inborn traits which lead to being rich, will always have status in any natural society. They will always do alright. That's why they can't be trusted; the stakes are never high for them. If anything they'd rather have more freedom to realize their talents. People of peasant stock though, they came from the dregs of society. They know very well that all they have was given to them by the party. And so they will be loyal to the death, because they know it, if the Communist regime falls, their status will fall as fast as a hammer in a well. And the same goes for everyone else, especially those ethnic minorities."
https://spandrell.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism
It also seems that the notion that the "Pendulum swings back eventually" is quite false. Many of them died in mass graves or the Gulags:
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2020/10/suicide-of-the-liberals
Oh yeah, and Orban won another election today with another supermajority. It's good to see that some nations still have the will to reject globohomo.
@ John
It would undermine their own strategy to kill civilians unless they have to.
I don't think you really understand what your up against.
All media in Russia is now state controlled and this is the stuff that's being broadcast, or in other words, state approved.
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-703184
During the Yugoslav war, similar stuff was produced by the Serbian Academy of Sciences to ideologically justify that war. (In other words their "educated" people were spouting this stuff.)
These are really bad people. They're not homo's they're murderers and that apparently makes them acceptable to some people on the "right".
I also think that there is an element of truth in the idea of biological Leninism.
@Anon.
Though I don't agree with everything he does, I'm glad that Orban won.
During the Yugoslav war, similar stuff was produced by the Serbian Academy of Sciences to ideologically justify that war. (In other words their "educated" people were spouting this stuff.)
The Yugoslav War was obviously justified and only a muslim-loving globohomo stooge would argue otherwise.
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