Sunday, August 12, 2012

Mencken on IQ Tests and Liberals.


Menken here writes on his opinion of IQ tests and liberals. I've highlighted what I think are the important points.
Here, of course, I flirt with the so-called intelligence tests, and so bring down upon my head that acrid bile which they have set to flowing. My plea in avoidance is that I have surely done my share of damning them: they aroused, when they were first heard of, my most brutish passions, for pedagogues had them in hand. But I can only say that time and experience have won me to them, for the evidence in favor of them slowly piles up, pedagogues or no pedagogues. In other words, they actually work. What they teach is borne out by immense accumulations of empiric corroboration. It is safe, nine times out of ten, to give them credence, and so it seems to me to be safe to generalize from them. Is it only a coincidence that their most frantic critics are the Liberals, which is to say, the only surviving honest believers in democracy? I think not. These Liberals, whatever their defects otherwise, are themselves capable of learning, and so they quickly mastered the fact that MM. Simon and Binet offered the most dangerous menace to their vapourings ever heard of since the collapse of the Holy Alliance. Their dudgeon followed. In two ways the tests give aid and comfort to their enemies. First, they provide a more or less scientific means of demonstrating the difference in natural intelligence between man and man-a difference noted ages ago by common observation, and held to be real by all men save democrats, at all times and everywhere. Second, they provide a rational scale for measuring it and a rational explanation of it. Intelligence is reduced to levels, and so given a reasonable precision of meaning. An intelligent man is one who is capable of taking in knowledge until the natural limits of the species are reached. A stupid man is one whose progress is arrested at some specific time and place before then. There thus appears in psychology and the next instant in politics-the concept of the unteachable. Some men can learn almost indefinitely; their capacity goes on increasing until their bodies begin to wear out. Others stop in childhood, even in infancy. They reach, say, the mental age of ten or twelve, and then they develop no more. Physically, they become men, and sprout beards, political delusions, and the desire to propagate their kind. But mentally they remain on the level of schoolboys.

The fact here is challenged sharply by the democrats aforesaid, but certainly not with evidence. Their objection to it is rather of a metaphysical character, and involves gratuitous, transcendental assumptions as to what ought and what ought not to be true. They echo also, of course, the caveats of other and less romantic critics, some of them very ingenious; but always, when hard pressed, they fall back pathetically upon the argument that believing such things would be in contempt of the dignity of man, made in God's image. Is this argument sound? Is it, indeed, new? I seem to have heard it long ago, from the gentlemen of the sacred faculty. Don't they defend the rubbish of Genesis on the theory that rejecting it would leave the rabble without faith, and that without faith it would be one with the brutes, and very unhappy, and, what is worse, Immoral? I leave such contentions to the frequenters of Little Bethel and pause only to observe that if the progress of the human race had depended upon them we'd all believe in witches, ectoplasms and madstones today. Democracy, alas, is also a form of theology, and shows all the immemorial stigmata. Confronted by uncomfortable facts, it invariably tries to dispose of them by appeals to the highest sentiments of the human heart. An anti-democrat is not merely mistaken; he is also wicked, and the more plausible he is the more wicked he becomes. As I have said, the earliest of modern democrats were full of Christian juices. Their successors never get very far from Genesis 1, 27. They are Fundamentalists by instinct, however much they may pretend to a mellow scepticism.

One undoubted fact gives them a certain left-handed support, though they are far too discreet to make use of it. I allude to the fact that man on the lower levels, though he quickly reaches the limit of his capacity for taking in actual knowledge, remains capable for a long time thereafter of absorbing delusions. What is true daunts him, but what is not true finds lodgement in his cranium with so little resistance that there is only a trifling emission of heat. I shall go back to this singular and beautiful phenomenon later on. It lies at the heart of what is called religion, and at the heart of all democratic politics no less. The thinking of what Charles Richet calls Homo stultus' is almost entirely in terms of palpable nonsense. He has a dreadful capacity for embracing and cherishing impostures. His history since the first records is a history of successive victimizations-by priests, by politicians, by all sorts and conditions of quacks. His heroes are always frauds. In all ages he has hated bitterly the men who were labouring most honestly and effectively for the progress of the race. What such men teach is beyond his grasp. He believes in consequence that it is unsound, immoral and of the devil.
 Commentary:

Mencken here notes the fundamental opposition between democratic ideology and metrics which demonstrate the falsity of the ideal. Mencken is also quite astute in recognising that when confronted with empirical confirmation of the falsity of democratic equality, the democrat will argue against the finding on non-empircal grounds.  Democracy is not just a method of government, it is a religion, especially amongst liberals. But if you think about it a bit more, radical democracy with its profound insistence on egalitarianism, is front loaded with moral relativism. Superiority of any kind is profoundly undemocratic, so in a democratic society there will be a relentless underlying pressure to "level" everything. Radical libertarianism complements this state of affairs, since the libertarian with his desire to "damn well what he pleases" frustrates any attempt at collective action which will result in a superior outcome for the common good. The problem really isn't with the intelligent libertarian, who can be persuaded with logical argument and factual evidence towards a course of action which clearly superior. But what if the libertarian is a democrat or an idiot? What then?  Unfortunately, libertarian ideology also seems to  assume that all men are created equal. They aren't.

The two ideologies feed each other.

Mencken also realises that empiricism and rationality are the enemies of universal Democracy which totally refute its underlying assumptions. This strain of thought goes against a large body of "romantic conservative opinion" which see's rationality as the enemy of conservatism.  Liberalism is founded on irrationality, conservatism is empiric, and conservatives who diss intelligence are sawing away at their own branch.

Unlike most of the HBD crowd, Mencken still seems to harbor some reservations with regard to IQ tests.  Whilst he recognises their validity, he seems to hint that there are limits to their usefulness. Mencken recognises that the problem with the liberal ideology is not stupidity but fantasy. The liberal prefers the world to be a certain way and ignores evidence which is contrary to his ideal. The liberal pathology does not rest on a deficiency of data processing but a deficiency of data recognition.  A philosophy which rests on ignoring data would appear to be manifestly stupid, but lots of people who embrace this ideology seem to do quite well these days and wield and inordinate amount of influence. 

It's obvious most people that flying a plane by democratic vote is stupid, but moronic input into the running of the state is percieved as being benign.  The reason for this is that the consequence of bad decsion making in the air is immediate and usual fatal. The average mind is therefore able to appreciate the dangers. But when the danger is gradual and far away the danger is dismissed. It is the phenomenon of stenosophism at work.

Modern democratic ideology is profoundly hostile the conservative notion of the good running of a society. This does not mean that the alternative is to embrace a conservative dictatorship, rather, conservatives need to embrace a political ideology which limits the power of the moronic proles and yet protects the proles against the maliciousness and exploitative nature of the mainstream elites.

31 comments:

mdavid said...

Most people, and it seems Mencken is one of them, confuse bland science with politics and desparately want to muddy the issue.

IQ is a bland science, and doesn't need to enter into the political realm...yet for some reason Mencken and 99% of humanity can't think rationally about an empirically designed test that predicts behavior, career paths, success in cognitive studies, etc. It's statistically very predictive, yes. Yawn. It has a genetic component, say from 0.3 to 0.7. Yawn. Why does it throw people - libs and cons - into fits? Because they have ideologies that are not fit for reality.

The reality that everyone hates - Menchken and almost everyone else - is that humans are genetic creatures, evolving right now (there are many who have still not yet evolved to process milk since we started domesticating goats & cows so recently). Even a simple glance at the sprinters and distance runners in the Olympics tells us a mere 50k years of human linage makes large genetic differences. Therefore, it would be shocking (and actually impossible) if humans of different genetic linage had equal IQ. Again, yawn. Even a tyro in Darwinian science could figure this out. If we were talking about chimps (separated from humans by a mere 5 million years) we wouldn't even be discussing anything it's so obvious. Man is forever a political beast.

Tom said...

While IQ is a useful measurement, I can't help but note that many people who are quite comfortable with IQ as a measurement of intelligence would be horrified at the idea of an "Artistic Quotient" because art cannot possible be simplified into a single dimensional measure, despite intelligence being a far broader concept than artistry.

Tom said...

As far as flying planes by democracy vs. running the state. The primary difference is that pilots are presumed to be disinterested in where the plane actually lands.

In running the state, we can presume (with almost no historical contradiction) that no matter who they are, the rulers will eventually start to rule in their own interests. Democracy is one of the few means by which we can align the interests of the rulers with the interests of the ruled.

Admittedly. rough and often badly aligned, but in the long wrong, closer than any other system of government.

mdavid said...

Tom, While IQ is a useful measurement, I can't help but note that many people who are quite comfortable with IQ as a measurement of intelligence would be horrified at the idea of an "Artistic Quotient"

IQ is useful only because it predicts in a statistically measurable way. What exactly is AQ going to measure in an experimentally verifiable way? Or is it merely a political fit by folk who cannot stand the concept of IQ? Any rational person knows the answer.

It is true that rational people are "horrified" by political twists of science. Be it AGW or AQ or whatever is next on the political agenda, those who seek the truth remain forever aghast ("horrified" if you will) at blatant disregard of the truth if the name of ideology.

The Social Pathologist said...

@mdavid

I completely understand the limitations of the IQ metric, but it needs to be remembered it gives statistical validity to a commonsense fact; namely that some men are objectively stupid.

Politics is the art of governance and weak minds will govern poorly, to the detriment of the common good. There's not much mainstream conservative philosophy that recognises this objective fact.

@Tom

Admittedly. rough and often badly aligned, but in the long wrong, closer than any other system of government.

I don't know Tom. I actually think people had more "rights" further back than now. Sebastian Haffners Ddefying Hitler, recounts how in the days of monarchic absolutism in Prussia, the supreme court there was quite prepared to stand against the king. The Supreme Court of the U.S. seems pretty pliable in my opinion. I honestly believe that the high point of Western Civilisation was reached between 1880-1910 since then it has been all downhill.

WIth regard to IQ, it really is a redundant test. It only empirically confirms what common sense notes on a daily basis. The IQ test is a bit like those sociological studies that confirm people like sweets, or that women like good looking men. It's something that quantifies the obvious. I don't know what Einstein's IQ was but I do know that he was smarter than me.

Jason said...

An interesting point that you made doctor about IQ not really being mentioned in mainstream conservative circles. When I now think about it, I have to confess that I really don’t recall the issue of intelligence being mentioned by such conservative commentators as George Will or Charles Krauthammer, or by broadcasters on outlets like Fox News. Of course, the topic of psychometrics is all over the blogosphere, in which it is thoughtfully analyzed by individuals like Steve Sailer or John Derbyshire, and guys like Charles Murray write books and occasional opinion articles about IQ, but I guess all of these fellows are in a separate realm.
Anyway, as far as your essay is concerned, it seems to me that Mencken (and you) are really inquiring into the issue of intelligence and how it relates to citizenship. Since the Greeks it has been known that democracies cannot survive in places where there are peoples who lack good citizenship; also since the Greeks, it has been understood that good citizenship is inseparable from the habitual practice of virtue – if citizens don’t have good families, good work habits, a certain civic knowledge of politics and history, and so on, then eventually their republics, constitutional monarchies, or whatever are eventually going to disintegrate and fall. The elephant in the room that many do not want to face though – on both the right and left - is the relationship between intelligence and the ability to be virtuous. Now to be sure, people with low or average intelligence can certainly act with virtue (e.g. many lesser intelligent individuals have fought very bravely in wars), yet are they always equipped to make good political decisions? A dense but nonetheless very good and devout Hispanic Catholic American, for example, might be a good family man and do good deeds in his community, yet be totally single-minded as far as the issues of ethnicity and illegal immigration are concerned. The idea that the sovereignty of the U.S. and the rule of law might be more important than identification with his ethnic and religious brethren might simply be beyond him, and not due to malice or willful obtuseness but simply to lack of cognition. In plain English, he just doesn’t know any better. Yet multiply such Hispanic Americans by millions, those who simply cannot comprehend why other native Americans might term illegal immigrants as actually being “illegal” rather than “undocumented” or other Orwellian terms, and you have a real problem on your hands. For the ability to make thoughtful political decisions in a democracy where the people are sovereign does require a certain capacity for abstract thinking, namely the ability to weigh competing values (e.g. sympathy for immigrants vs. the capacity of nations to absorb such immigrants). Needless to say, a capacity for such abstraction is unequally allocated in the population – hence the perennial danger of tyranny of the majority or of various minorities.

mdavid said...

SP, ...but it needs to be remembered it gives statistical validity to a commonsense fact; namely that some men are objectively stupid.

Yikes! That's pretty good. But you could change the "some men" to "all men" and it would be even more amusing...

Thursday said...

It isn't just McGilchrist, though he rightly castigates the reasoning part of our brain as a grossly overconfident know-it-all. You should read some of the scathing things Jonathan Haidt has to say about the reliability of reason. It would appear that both individual reason and individual intuition are extremely unreliable. So what now?

Well, there's tradition, where we rely on the wisdom of social systems based on the intuition (and reason) of many people.

Thursday said...

Both individual reason and individual intution aren't terribly reliable, but it seems to be more the individual part that is causing the problems. Social systems like tradition (and even science) are what we have come up with to combat these problems.

For example, the problem with the Romantic poets wasn't their preference for intuition over reason, but their emphasis on private mythmaking instead of working within the mythological systems of their general culture. Not that they had much choice, since that mythology was largely gone.

Thursday said...

Having looked at your review of Dorner, it would seem that he isn't saying anything much different from McGilchrist.

The Social Pathologist said...

@Jason.

Very good comment. My next post will deal with this.

@Thursday.

I recommend that you read Dorner's book. Dorner's main objective in the book was to demonstrate the failure of intelligence, but what he also shows by default is that some people are able to manage complex situations quite well.

My objection to McGilchrist is that he misdiagnoses the problem. McGilchrist feels that the problem is over-rationality where in reality the problem is irrationality, People thinking that they are rational does not make them so. Dorner shows that many of stupid decisions made by his subjects arise from a failure of following the laws of logic and rationality.

It would appear that both individual reason and individual intuition are extremely unreliable. So what now?

A bit of humility towards the truth.

Our logic and our premises may be flawed but the ultimate test is how they conform to reality. Reality is the ultimate auditor.

Capitalism's superiority over socialism in the provision of goods is not an opinion but an object fact. The fact that the socialist refuses to acknowledge this is not because of a hyper-rational mind but because evidence which disagrees with whatever preferred mental model is dismissed.

The problem with liberalism and some aspects of conservatism is that when put to the "reality test" they fail. The whole point of the scientific method is to align our thoughts and understanding with the observed world as it is.

The problem though is that many good scientists in one sphere are hopeless in others. Think Linus Pauling and Vitamin C. Many scientists are quite narrow and propound their findings in ignorance of all the other "outside factors" that may affect them. But the public, with their superficial intellects rationalise that if a man is a good rocket scientist his brainpower will be easily transferred to other fields. Such is not the case. The scientist ends up looking stupid and science (i.e rationality) is given a bad name.

ElectricAngel said...

Capitalism's superiority over socialism in the provision of goods is not an opinion but an object fact.

Well, not so much. Socialism delivers goods, plenty of them, but not always the CORRECT goods. Socialist economies can be quite productive, and they can be quite creative.

The problem is REALITY. An oak tree growing will send out many small branches. Over time, as the tree gets taller, these lower branches fall into the shade of the upper ones and wither and die: the tree cuts them off of nutrients from the roots, as there is no "positive return" on the nutrients supplied.

Capitalist and socialist economies BOTH put out new branches all the time. The problem is, the socialist economies have no mechanism to cut off the supply of nutrients to parts of the economic tree that should wither, and the capitalist ones DO. Therein lies the superiority of capitalism: it husbands capital more carefully, and so there is more of it, in the long run.

GK Chesterton said...

We have to be careful not to go to far. While it is good that a captain pilots a small group where decisions are extended and cover vast masses of people there is something to be said about democratic discussion. See Galton's Experiment on cow weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton).

I'm not saying democracy is a panacea but that crowds due have a certain wisdom when engaged properly. That may mean that Constitutional Monarchies, with their democratic deliberative bodies, have a great deal of merit.

GK Chesterton said...

We have to be careful not to go to far. While it is good that a captain pilots a small group where decisions are extended and cover vast masses of people there is something to be said about democratic discussion. See Galton's Experiment on cow weight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton).

I'm not saying democracy is a panacea but that crowds due have a certain wisdom when engaged properly. That may mean that Constitutional Monarchies, with their democratic deliberative bodies, have a great deal of merit.

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