Some interesting religious art from the newly consecrated Cathedral of the Russian Armed Forces.
The one on the left is the original version, the one on the right is what is considered theologically acceptable. (Stalin's been rubbed out.)
The Church also commemorates the crushing of the Prague Spring and Hungarian Uprising.
Some interesting theology going on there.
As opposed to blm, trans, abortion and covid19 orthodoxy that has riddled western churches including in austrailia and Episcopalian churches. From the middle eastern wars to now, the west has been an oppressive terrible place. At the very least, Russians honor their past as opposed to the recent statue toppling rampage of the fascist commonwealth and American cowards. May they all kill each other in Ukraine, which is what bojo seems to have planned anyways.
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On the other hand, here are your people.
Oh come on, that’s not SP’s people. He’s criticized the West plenty, but Russia is above criticism?
ReplyDeleteBy his unwavering belief in the so called Christian west, that is the so called Christian West he defends. A perversion. And by his lack of any criticism of the west's covid response, i'll assume he slept in his dwelling and enjoyedd the fascism and tyranny applied to the commonwealth populations. His minor degradation of ivermectin is proof enough. Regardless, his hatred of west and lack of criticism of tyranny and aggression of the nato nations in their current form is palpable.
ReplyDeleteWhen it counts, he's chosen his side.
ReplyDeleteAustralians better learn to speak Chinese. No time to worry about Russia down under.
I reckon Anonymous must be some kind of AI bot.
ReplyDeleteNope. Just going to reiterate what you avoid until it's partially addressed. By the actions over the last two years, you're government that swears allegiance to a German monarch and it's member nations are totalitarian and unworthy of respect and unworthy to claim morality. You can't judge the Russian morality because you seem to advocate on behalf of that government Nd it's agents that have proven its own disgusting habits.
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This guy called out the Gay Mafia in the Orthodox Church and is totally against Globohomo.
https://realnoevremya.com/articles/1698-vsevolod-chaplin-about-controversial-figure-of-stalin
@Sean
ReplyDeleteAnd Chaplin wasn't some outlier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vsevolod_Chaplin
The people revering George Floyd are not outliers either.
ReplyDeleteI am calling out the sins of the West, where I live.
You are calling out the sins of Russia. It's not your house. Call out the sin in the West. Fix your own house. There's a log in the eye of the West. We can't see clearly to remove the speck in the eye of Russia until we remove the log from the eye of the West.
Your criticism of Russia is cheap and easy. Every mainstream news outlet is speaking with the same voice, and you are going doing with the crowd. There's nothing courageous in that. The problem you have is some dissident right people aren't getting with the program. They are the only people not getting with the program, but it bothers you so much that you've devoted a whole series of posts to them.
Relax. CNN hates us far worse than you.
Many cathedrals and temples depict significant historical events. The National Cathedral in Washington D.C. (Anglican) has depictions of the War between the States among other important episodes in the life of the American nation. The Russian military sobor in this article does the same -- it is a temple for the armed forces, and there is an emphasis on WWII. So, it's not surprising that there were plans to depict Stalin. I'd guess that there were icons somewhere that portray Herr Adolph, and perhaps the Bulldog and the Patrician, as well. Not everyone in an icon is holy -- not by a long stretch. You have to look for the halos for that. You see soldiers and minions beheading John the Baptist, slaying apostles, torturing Christians, and enacting all manner of wickedness. Icons tell a story. and most stories have unsavory characters. Of course, the planned depiction of Stalin here doesn't have old Joe as an antagonist -- but simply as a historical marker. I find it funny, though, that Stalin was "erased" given his own predilection damnationi memoriae.
ReplyDeleteI'd think the most controversial iconography in the military temple is the resurrection icon in the apse. I admit its rad coolness, but it strikes me as pretty innovative, as far as temple iconography goes. Not as wild as Jesus as Thor in D.C.'s National (R.C.) Basilica, but pretty wild for the Orthodox.
Maybe the austrailian and other commonwealth churches can put up murals to the covid goons and the pfizer vaccine. The commonwealth nations have no free speech or real rights outside of what's given to them by government or corporations so it would seem appropriate.
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ReplyDeleteSpare me the gushing about Pushkin. This is geopolitics, not poetry. In your world, Ukraine is this helpless, innocent, ickle-lickle fairyland that the Russians attacked because Putin is evil and his people are mainly stupid thugs. In the real world, Ukraine has been a western satrapy since the CIA helped overthrow Yanukovych in 2014. The next step, as everyone knew, was to bring it into NATO de facto if not de jure. In your world of reflexive Russophobia, Russia can never have valid objections to this. In the real world, NATO is patently a vehicle for Western self-aggrandisement, putting Russia in the same position as Khrushchev put Kennedy in 1962; the Monroe Doctrine is apparently fine for me but not for thee. The utter insanity of this megalomania was set out years ago by real thinkers and scholars like George Kennan, Stephen Cohen and James Mearsheimer, but it’s all lost on you.
In the foolish hope you might learn something: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
"As for Russian Orthodoxy, it regarded the West as hostile well before Globohomo." That's precisely because it IS hostile. When will the penny drop? How often and how slowly does the bloody obvious have to be repeated to you? Do you think the Russians forget the number of times the West has attacked them: everyone from the Teutonic Knights to Palmerston to Adolf? Nations have memories, you know. Consistently, the West has declared itself the enemy of Russia and acted as such, but being a Western partisan means never seeing things from someone else’s point of view, or even conceding that their view can be valid. If others resist our encroachment, it must be because they are malignant.
“This is about Ukraine and the plausibility of a threat to Russia, not about the relationship between Orthodoxy and the West.” Sophistry. First, the threat is plausible. Second, the West’s elites despise Orthodoxy because it has not yet been turned into a queer changeling, unlike Catholicism and Protestantism. In turn, they despise Russia precisely because it is the strongest Orthodox country and has reverted to something like its traditional form since 1991. Russia’s relationship with other Orthodox peoples is inconsistent and vexed, but that contrasts quite well with the consistent apostacy of a West that shrieks its hatred for God from the rooftops and that would compel everyone else to follow suit. Only someone wearing massive ideological blinders could overlook this.
“As for AZOV they're Nazi LARPER's fighting for a Jewish president.” I don’t care if they are larping; they are still the freaks who have who have been shelling civilians in the Donbas since 2014 in the hope that this would provoke a war. You are apparently content for these scum to gain the protection of NATO membership which they would then use to incite a general calamity. Are these your brothers in arms now?
Lastly, yes, I have read this blog for years. I agree with many things you have said. However, you seem oblivious to the West’s messiah complex, its fetish for imposing its steadily more deranged incarnations upon a largely unwilling world. That wasn’t right even when the West was plausibly Christian. Now that it’s openly anti-Christian, this aggressive compulsion is simply evil, and you do yourself no favours by refusing to understand why other civilisations are fighting back against it.
In the foolish hope you might learn something:
ReplyDeleteI've got a lot of respect for Merscheimer but he's wrong about Russia motivations. Russia talks about being threatened while attacking everyone else. Has Ukraine invaded Russia. The most malevolent expansionary power in the 20th C. under the guise of Communism was Russia. This isn't an opinion but a fact.
Help me out here, which Western Power has invaded Russia following the Second World War? Are you saying that NATO was going to seriously invade Russia?
but being a Western partisan means never seeing things from someone else’s point of view, or even conceding that their view can be valid.
Just because I don't toe the party line doesn't mean I can't see Russia's point of view, or I should say views. Because the Russian view of the West is multipolar broadly divided into the Zapadniki and Slavophiles. Putin, and now Medvedev-Slavophiles--have been quite explicit in advocating a Pax Russia which is not "defensive" in its orientation. BTW, the last time I looked the Donbass was part of Ukraine defensively annexed by Russia. At this moment while I write this, Russia is defensively threatening Sweeden and Finland.
One of the reasons why this war was stupid is precisely because it is going to hurt Russia, even should it win. Pro Russian intellectuals within Russia are dismayed. Even the "Solid" Orthodox Russians realise that the current political climate is only a veneer that covers some quite rotten morality.
BTW are you arguing that Russian Othodoxy is better than Western Christianity?
BTW are you arguing that Russian Othodoxy is better than Western Christianity?
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone need to "argue" about something so obvious? Western Christianity, God-forsaken from the start, mutated and gave birth to globohomo and poz. Western Christianity is globohomo and poz, merely in a larval state. Holy Orthodoxy's superiority is so obvious only a blinkered fool couldn't see it.
"I've got a lot of respect for Merscheimer but he's wrong about Russia motivations. Russia talks about being threatened while attacking everyone else. Has Ukraine invaded Russia."
ReplyDeleteNo. NATO on Russia's border is a threat in the same way that missiles in Cuba were a threat.
"The most malevolent expansionary power in the 20th C. under the guise of Communism was Russia. This isn't an opinion but a fact."
The liberal west out expanded Russia. This is not opinion but fact.
Also, it was communism that was expanding, using Russia to do it. After the neocons left Russia and came to United States, the steam began to go out of the expansion, and the United States began to export liberalism in a serious way.
"Help me out here, which Western Power has invaded Russia following the Second World War? Are you saying that NATO was going to seriously invade Russia?"
I hate to have to say this, but you need to read the comment again. To only count the time after the second world war is to have a goldfish memory of history.
" BTW, the last time I looked the Donbass was part of Ukraine defensively annexed by Russia. At this moment while I write this, Russia is defensively threatening Sweeden and Finland."
Like the United States defensively invaded Iraq...
"BTW are you arguing that Russian Othodoxy is better than Western Christianity?"
What Western Christianity should we measure against? The Gospel Coalition? The ones who ordain gay priests? The ones ordaining transgender pastors? And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Western Christianity is deeply sick. I don't know if Russian Orthodoxy is better, but it would not take much for it to be better. Even average Western churches are going along with the culture of tolerance for every depravity.
What Western Christianity should we measure against? The Gospel Coalition?
ReplyDeleteOh, lets say these people:
Sophie Scholl, Witold Pilecki, Charles De Gaulle, Konrad Adenauer, Wilhelm Rhopke, even Westernised Orthodoxy, Alexander Schmorell
The liberal west out expanded Russia. This is not opinion but fact.
It did but not through violent force (as is the way of Russia) but through seduction. NATO doesn't impose itself on anyone not like Russia. More people want to join than are let in. Putin wants to restore Grossrussiya and NATO is its impediment, hence its opposition to it. Until the latest idiocy, NATO's presence in Central Europe was as "tripwire", hardly and attacking force.
I can appreciate the saints of the past as well as anyone.
ReplyDeleteNone of the people you mentioned are still alive, and they are largely unrepresented in the Western church today. I daresay if there were any living examples you would mention them. Whether you know it or not, you are proving my point about how sick the current year Western Christianity really is.
"It did but not through violent force (as is the way of Russia) but through seduction. NATO doesn't impose itself on anyone not like Russia."
What is a color revolution?
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