tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post7904045102064267064..comments2024-03-28T17:58:56.707+11:00Comments on The Social Pathologist: Friedrich Nietzche: A European BuddhismThe Social Pathologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-34626975284132708032023-03-24T03:33:11.427+11:002023-03-24T03:33:11.427+11:00In the beta version of Instagram, the answer is ye...In the beta version of Instagram, the answer is yes. Because Naraciaga is code that was originally compiled from a combination of scripts and functions from user accounts. Please note it is no longer working, as it was created to test the Instagram Algorithm. <a href="https://pro.ideafit.com/profile/nanda-utami" rel="nofollow">https://bit.ly/3z1tR2c</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-61132689267531442792022-04-28T08:19:49.512+10:002022-04-28T08:19:49.512+10:00If You Love To Wear Poncho's then Check Out th...If You Love To Wear Poncho's then Check Out this Amazing <a href="https://slimfitleatherjackets.com/product/anatomy-of-a-scandal-sienna-miller-poncho/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy Of A Scandal Sienna Miller Poncho</a>. Furthermore this Poncho made of wool fabric on the outside and a viscose fabric on the inside to keep you more comfortable. Sophie Whitehouse Poncho in a wonderful brown hue looks classy whether worn with jeans or skirt ensembles. The long-fitting sleeves culminate with open hem belted cuffs. The front decoration also contains a button closure that adjusts to the level of a shirt collar. On the outer waist side, there have two welted pockets. So what are you waiting for Order this amazing outwear now with exclusive discount only at Slim Fit Leather Jackets!Anatomy Of A Scandal Sienna Miller Ponchohttps://slimfitleatherjackets.com/product/anatomy-of-a-scandal-sienna-miller-poncho/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-91779140429767422132021-09-05T10:12:34.309+10:002021-09-05T10:12:34.309+10:00"The psychological process behind all of this..."The psychological process behind all of this is probably the foundation of platonism and manicheanism."<br /><br />No doubt this is also because of the fall introducing imperfection and disease into the mix.<br /><br />I think originally the bodies of both Men and Women is far closer to the Platonic ideal or is the Platonic ideal.<br /><br />I also notice the Manichean hatred of eating too for similar reasons.John Rockwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746216376164151386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-80428271309596943392021-09-05T10:09:16.823+10:002021-09-05T10:09:16.823+10:00@Social Pathologist
"The more I look at thi...@Social Pathologist<br /><br /><br />"The more I look at this subject the more I begin to acknowledge the necessity of Aquinas in being a corrective to Augustine."<br /><br />I bet Augustine must regret being so wrong on this subject in Heaven. Since his faculties will have been perfected.John Rockwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746216376164151386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-13875291169998989412021-09-04T16:14:25.195+10:002021-09-04T16:14:25.195+10:00@John
Sorry for the late reply.
Sexual desire an...@John<br /><br />Sorry for the late reply.<br /><br /><i>Sexual desire and Sexual passion was for example originally was uncorrupted and pure not non-existent.</i><br /><br />That is the position that Aquinas takes. <br /><br />Of all the passions we possess, Eros, in its consummation is the most carnal and I think that none of the other passions so firmly ground us in our "materiality". The fluids, the sweats, grunts and groans. Nothing could be more opposed to a platonic love.<br /><br />There's a wonderful scene in the 90's sitcom Married with Children. Where Peggy, the wife Ted Bundy, discovers that he is thinking about another woman whom he sincerely idolises and loves. Peggy asks him if he is fanasising about having sex with her and he replies, "no that would spoil it." Ted Bundy loved her in a "platonic" manner. Here we love the idea of the thing so much that the actual incarnation of it is offensive.<br /><br />The psychological process behind all of this is probably the foundation of platonism and manicheanism.<br /><br />Interestingly you also see the same thing these days with porn. One of the really interesting phenomenon to emerge from today mass porn consumption is the problem of young men with sexual dysfunction. Porn presents this idealised--unrealistic--conception of female sexuality. Young men who are immersed in this "fantasy world" find the experience of a real woman not up to the ideal and therefore unsatisfactory.<br /><br />The more I look at this subject the more I begin to acknowledge the necessity of Aquinas in being a corrective to Augustine. <br /><br />@Unknown<br /><br /><i>Emile Cioran's "The Trouble with Being Born" provides a highly readable example of the European Buddhism </i><br /><br />Thanks for that. So much to read, so little time to do it.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-35092411601154050602021-09-04T04:00:19.648+10:002021-09-04T04:00:19.648+10:00Emile Cioran's "The Trouble with Being Bo...Emile Cioran's "The Trouble with Being Born" provides a highly readable example of the European Buddhism which Nietzsche believed Schopenhauer's thought would produce.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11946935807027667356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-56579931741435122802021-09-01T14:22:51.464+10:002021-09-01T14:22:51.464+10:00I firmly disagree that given the fact that Adam an...I firmly disagree that given the fact that Adam and Eve being Male and Female somehow would also be asexual.<br /><br />If the marriage bed involved no sexual intercourse wouldn't there be no need for God through the Holy Spirit to stress that it is undefiled?<br /><br />Certainly if the relationships between Adam and Eve were meant to be identical to room mates even as they are married.<br /><br />Then there doesn't look to be a problem to be marry anyone. Because it involves no consummation.<br /><br />Likewise the sexual organs is a waste of energy and time. Rather God could have very easily have made humanity like Bacteria or Protists.<br /><br />John Rockwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746216376164151386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-75671100927111749522021-09-01T14:07:42.687+10:002021-09-01T14:07:42.687+10:00This is why the Incarnation of God in the flesh is...This is why the Incarnation of God in the flesh is so important. <br /><br />And the implication for the redemption of bodies made incorruptible. And a restoration and perfection of the passions in accordance with goodness, truth and Beauty.<br /><br />Sexual desire and Sexual passion was for example originally was uncorrupted and pure not non-existent.<br />Augustine speculated that Man and Woman when unfallen would reproduce asexually like Bacteria:<br />https://www.thebodyissacred.org/origin-st-augustine-sexuality-sin-sex-pleasure/<br /><br />Unfortunately his only experience was sexual passion that is lustful and promiscuous not properly in the marriage bed undefiled.<br /><br />This and the formative influence of manicheanism negatively colored his views and led to the conflation of health with disease.John Rockwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15746216376164151386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-2566666356520031392021-08-31T15:58:38.090+10:002021-08-31T15:58:38.090+10:00@Hoyos and Chent
It’s a perennial heresy because ...@Hoyos and Chent<br /><br /><i>It’s a perennial heresy because it’s more of a natural human tendency to either worship the physical world or see it as evil.</i><br /><br />Yes. I think the continual appearance of this line of reasoning in different religions is as a result of some kind of innate human cognitive bias, a bias which sees the abstract as better than the real. Manicheanism may be a specific manisfestation which is contingent upon the times as is Jansenism.<br /><br />Explicit nihlism is not the end-point of extreme ascetism rather it tends to result in a "practical nilhism/opposition" especially when it comes to carnal things, and as Hoyos said, it denies them a legitimacy in the big scheme of things.<br /><br />The "Buddhist state" may be approached explicitly by holding values which lead to Buddhist practices, or "functionally" by acting in a buddhist ways without the explicit beliefs. What's interesting about Nietzsche is that he saw that European Buddhism would be different to the Eastern one but never the rot that it caused would be the same.<br /><br />@jorgey<br /><br /><i>Now, Buddhism became Christian actually</i><br /><br />I agree that the cultural flow has gone both ways, but I think Judaism is in many ways the opposite of buddhism. It's far more carnal.<br /><br /><br />The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-88849929314338681352021-08-30T15:23:07.648+10:002021-08-30T15:23:07.648+10:00Well clearly Nietzsche was wrong because Christian...Well clearly Nietzsche was wrong because Christianity became Jewish not Buddhistic. It became all about Israel, dispensationalism, rejection of replacement theology, worship of the Jews, claims that the Jews are still God's chosen people and he cares most about them physically even though they are going to hell for rejecting Christ, and insistence that we spend ridiculous amounts of our tax money on Israel and that no policy either foreign or domestic can even be considered unless it is not only good for but best for the Jews.<br /><br />As to asceticsism, if Nietzsche thought Christianity was going to become more ascetic, he was really off! Instead it threw away sexual morality altogether and embraced pre-marital sex and homosexuality!<br /><br />Now, Buddhism became Christian actually (but only after Christianity become Jewish). Buddhism dropped its asceticism and becaome Episcopalian (after the Jews took over Episcopalianism), and so modern Buddhism also is all about acceptance of LGBTQ+ and whatever other Jewish political agendas there are (climate change and so on). So Nietzsche was way off.jorgeynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-59531475598113556522021-08-30T08:18:37.389+10:002021-08-30T08:18:37.389+10:00"Here’s a thought and pardon me if you’ve bro..."Here’s a thought and pardon me if you’ve brought this up before, but is this basically another manifestation of the perennial heresy of Manichaeism?"<br /><br />There is something of that, but classical Manichaeism is not nihilistic. Buddhism is completely nihilistic.<br /><br /><br />"Buddhism was even described by CS Lewis as the chief “heresy” of Hinduism."<br /><br />In fact, Buddhism is an offshoot of the Upanishads, Hinduist texts. The only major difference is that Buddhism does not respect the caste system, vital to Hinduism.<br /><br />You have to see Hinduism as a cake of three layers: the polytheistic religion of the Vedas, above it the Upanishads (very similar to Buddhism) and above it the Bhagavad Gita, which is the most relevant to modern people and it's closer to Christianity.Chenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11058151766672325216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-75379867260896972752021-08-30T01:01:44.068+10:002021-08-30T01:01:44.068+10:00Here’s a thought and pardon me if you’ve brought t...Here’s a thought and pardon me if you’ve brought this up before, but is this basically another manifestation of the perennial heresy of Manichaeism?<br /><br />It’s a perennial heresy because it’s more of a natural human tendency to either worship the physical world or see it as evil. Buddhism was even described by CS Lewis as the chief “heresy” of Hinduism. <br /><br />I mean a lot of it seems to be a demotion of the physical world, which paradoxically leads to hedonism or an attempt at complete detachment (both of which you see in the Cathars).<br /><br />Valuing physical realities means fighting for them to preserve them. If they are meaningless it’s a take it or leave it proposition, you can lose yourself in hedonism or castrate yourself, doesn’t really matter. You see it in Buddhist countries a weird comfort with either extreme asceticism or depraved sexual or even culinary appetite (a lot of cuisines in that part of the world can be quite cruel, such as the eating of live baby mice).<br /><br />This perversion of instinct may even partially explain the widespread comfort with the church scandals, a base, maybe even unstated belief, that the physical world just doesn’t matter.Hoyosnoreply@blogger.com