tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post7542452413481145654..comments2024-03-28T17:58:56.707+11:00Comments on The Social Pathologist: Srdja Trifkovic and the Right.The Social Pathologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-30142330867291348892021-10-12T19:24:41.907+11:002021-10-12T19:24:41.907+11:00This was complete nonsense. Croat fascism started ...This was complete nonsense. Croat fascism started with Starcevic in the late 1800s. A straight line can be drawn between the political platforms of Starcevic, Pavelic and Tudjman. Perhaps the easiest way to see this is to ask the following question - why were Serbs 25% of Croatia in 1900 and close to 0 now?Mark Smythehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01685180838769171496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-21698650143139823032012-06-02T01:10:47.885+10:002012-06-02T01:10:47.885+10:00You asked:
Is it wrong to be against the murderi...You asked: <br /><br />Is it wrong to be against the murdering of unarmed combatants?<br /><br />Is it wrong to be against the setting up of concentrations camps?<br /><br />Is it wrong to be against the forced expulsion of people from their homes on the basis of their race?<br /><br />All those things are morally wrong; they all happen frequently in war.<br /><br />All three crimes were also committed by Croatian forces (HV or HVO) during the recent Balkan unpleasantness.<br /><br />Do you object to that also, and to those - pretty much Croatia's political establishment - who have enabled and defended such war crimes?Maisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-91762162730185464982012-05-29T14:03:48.267+10:002012-05-29T14:03:48.267+10:00@Maister
(though it would be nice if you spelled ...@Maister<br /><br /><i>(though it would be nice if you spelled his name properly)</i><br /><br />My bad. I've acknowledged it and fixed it. <br /><br /><i>not much beyond a gauzy Croatian bias.</i><br /><br />In what way?<br /><br />Is it wrong to be against the murdering of unarmed combatants?<br /><br />Is it wrong to be against the setting up of concentrations camps?<br /><br />Is it wrong to be against the forced expulsion of people from their homes on the basis of their race?<br /><br />Srdja Trifkovic is an apologist for a regime that did all of these things, and is now trying to deny the crimes, and recast the whole war of expansion as a battle against Islam. Which is just blatant bullshit to any remotely familiar with the facts.<br /><br />Have these things all suddenly become things of the Right? Because if they have then I am a liberal.<br /><br />One of the shitty things about some of the comments that have been put up is that is an implicit assumption that a man can't be Croat, or even Serb for that matter, and be objective about facts in the former Yugoslavia. Using that logic, a British or American could not never be objective about the Nazi regime because they fought them and are too emotionally invested. Of course any normal British or American would regard that as bullshit, and rightly so. <br /><br />Unlike most of my conservative colleagues, I listen to the Left, and sometimes they get it right. Hoare lets off the communists in Yugoslavia far too easily, but unlike most of the commentators on Yugoslavia, he backs up his claims with facts.<br /><br />Clearly you have a weak assosciative mind. Because, unlike you, I can differentiate between Serb Nationalsists and Normal Serbs. I have no problem with normal Serbs, it's the Sebian Nazi's that I don't like. And by the way, because I do get the impression that you're having some intellectual problems with this; in being against the Serbian Nationalists does not make me for the Croatian ones. Croatian Nazis are Just as bad as the Serbs ones.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-25687382984336964512012-05-29T10:57:02.558+10:002012-05-29T10:57:02.558+10:00Marko Attila Hoare is an (allegedly former) Trotsk...Marko Attila Hoare is an (allegedly former) Trotskyist, neocon, and Croatian nationalist (of a lefty sort), not sure why you'd cite him as a serious source.<br /><br />I have no particular sympathy for Dr Trifkovic (though it would be nice if you spelled his name properly), and I'm certainly no Serb, but I find your post to be a hatchet job. What, exactly, is the point?<br /><br />This seems to be informed by not much beyond a gauzy Croatian bias.Maisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-56184878167412912102012-05-28T22:07:47.942+10:002012-05-28T22:07:47.942+10:00The Social Pathologist,
you should come out of th...The Social Pathologist,<br /><br />you should come out of the closet and say you are liberal.Valkeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10835782570473516162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-52577308733668120242012-05-27T03:22:26.282+10:002012-05-27T03:22:26.282+10:00You'll have to excuse me if I don't join y...You'll have to excuse me if I don't join you in 'laying the boot to' or 'facepalming' anyone just yet. <br /><br />Look, I've read your blog here for some time, with interest and approval, as you well may know from previous comments. I've also read numerous Trivkovic's pieces, inlcuding at the Chronicles blog, where I've also commented. <br /><br />Therefore you'll understand why I took an interest in this piece and was trying to examine your argument.<br /><br />And of course it's useful to read opposing viewpoints. Debates can be informative.<br /><br />That said, and since you've invited me off the combox, I'll drop the cross-examination and just tell you that your post and comments so far leave me disappointed.<br /><br /><i>But my loathing of the man grows <b>the more I look</b> into him. I thought him just another cheap Serbian Nazi apologist, now I see him as much much worse. He was the PR man for the Bosnian Serbs.</i> <br /><br />As an educated man --and as a professed Christian, surely you must recognize that it's your intellectual and charitable duty to make a good faith effort to research someone <i>before</i> issuing a critique?<br /><br />Nevertheless, now you say you got lucky; he's worse than what you thought. <br /><br />I'll have to beg to differ. My take, in sum, is that both in the opening post and throughout you've issued a flawed indictment based on overstatement.<br /><br />Even in your one link to one of your target's pieces, he clearly does not do what you accuse him of: denial of war crimes. <br /><br />"That a war crime did take place is undeniable, but the number of its victims remains forensically and demographically unproven."<br /><br />I disagree that noting legal, moral, and evidentiary errors, as well as possible international bias against certain Serbs or Serbia as a whole, is morally relativistic or excusing or obfuscating. <br /><br />I disagree that merely being present in some unstated capacity after an event conclusively proves accessory after the fact. (BTW, was Premovic cross-examined?)<br /><br />I disagree that 600+ revisions of a bio on Wiki proves, or even implies that someone has been 'scrubbing' his bio in ones favor or in favor of some sort of idea. In fact, in this case I'd guess quite the opposite, but the inherent liberalism of Wikipedia is probably a topic for another debate. <br /><br />I disagree that raising these defenses means that I am 'happy with what went on' or approve in the least. <br /><br />In fact, that last bit of innuendo you threw is basically of a piece with your level in your post and comments; it's not true, it doesn't follow, and it's uncharitable.<br /><br />You're obviously an educated, well-read, fluent man, with substantial experience of the area, the people, its history. I'll look forward to just reading more of your essays on this and other topics. Who knows, maybe you'll even rise to challenge Trifkovic to a debate?CMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-90947160840158241222012-05-26T13:27:50.613+10:002012-05-26T13:27:50.613+10:00@CMC
So you were just guessing the quote and the...@CMC<br /><br /><br /><i>So you were just guessing the quote and the man were connected? And now you figure it was a good guess?</i><br /><br />The aim of the quote was to introduce the concept of historical revisionism with regard to the events in Bosnia. Not particularly with regard to Trifkiovic. <br /><br />But my loathing of the man grows the more I look into him. I thought him just another cheap Serbian Nazi apologist, now I see him as much much worse. He was the PR man for the Bosnian Serbs. <br /><br />I'm no big fan of the Muslim crowd, but the Siege of Sarajevo and Srebrenica were profound evils well outside the conservative tradition.<br /><br />I'm quite happy for you to be anti Ustashe on this blog. I'll join you in that criticism, but if you're happy with what went on (or at least partially approve of it) then I suggest you find another blog to comment on. Otherwise you've got to lay the boot into Trifkovic.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-14112478886066547122012-05-26T12:18:21.297+10:002012-05-26T12:18:21.297+10:00@Brendon.
You might want to reconsider your opin...@Brendon.<br /><br /><a href="http://greatersurbiton.wordpress.com/2012/03/14/the-west-and-the-break-up-of-yugoslavia-a-groundbreaking-new-study/" rel="nofollow"> You might want to reconsider your opinion. </a>The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-70912264251211649632012-05-26T12:04:33.932+10:002012-05-26T12:04:33.932+10:00And the same parallelism happened in the 90s. Whe...And the same parallelism happened in the 90s. When Croatia declared independence, who rushed to recognize it? Why, the Germans and Austrians, their former allies. And who moved behind the Serbs? Why, the Russians did, their old allies. It was plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose, really.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-62907098377584764822012-05-26T04:41:06.172+10:002012-05-26T04:41:06.172+10:00"The thing about the Austrians, though, is th..."The thing about the Austrians, though, is that they would have told Bismark to go to Hell. Although Austria is in the Germanic sphere, it's always played its own game."<br /><br />....<br /><br />Don't think so. The Austrians wanted to attack Serbia because of the assassination of the crown prince in Sarajevo. But they knew that such an attack would bring Russia into the war on Serbia's side. No way the ramshackle Austro-Hungarian empire was going to take on Russia without Germany's help.Black Deathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-45252394978762591902012-05-26T03:41:09.540+10:002012-05-26T03:41:09.540+10:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Canucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-70787128986005030682012-05-26T03:01:00.112+10:002012-05-26T03:01:00.112+10:00So you were just guessing the quote and the man we...So you were just guessing the quote and the man were connected? And now you figure it was a good guess?CMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-89028612365649659182012-05-26T00:45:34.667+10:002012-05-26T00:45:34.667+10:00@CMC
No idea.
But here is the master at work
I ...@CMC<br /><br />No idea.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2012/04/28/srdja-trifkovic-srebrenica-as-holocaust-see-note-please/" rel="nofollow">But here is the master at work</a><br /><br />I did a bit more fishing online today, and frankly I'm astounded.<br /><br />This is from the <a href="http://www.sense-agency.com/icty/american-serb%E2%80%99s-disbelief.29.html?cat_id=1&news_id=13815" rel="nofollow">ICTY war crimes testimony.</a><br /><br /><i>Tomislav Premovic, an American Serb, testified at the trial of Radovan Karadzic today. In mid-July 1995, when the VRS Srebrenica operation was in full swing, Premovic was in the office of the Republika Srpska president in Pale. Premovic heard the telephone conversation between Karadzic and General Ratko Mladic. Karadzic had put Mladic on the speakerphone in front of his American guests.<br /><br />The witness’s written statement was admitted into evidence. In his statement, Premovic said that Karadzic talked to Mladic about ‘the military events and the promotion of a VRS general’. Premovic also confirmed that two other guests from America, Slavica Ristic and Srdja Trifkovic, heard the conversation. In her testimony last month, Ristic said that Mladic reported to Karadzic that Srebrenica was ‘finished’ and that Zepa was ‘next’.<br /><br />Tom Premovic, Slavica Ristic and Srdja Trifkovic were members of the Lord Byron Foundation for Balkan Studies. Alfred Sherman, Margaret Thatcher’s former advisor, was also a member. The foundation was trying to improve the Bosnian Serbs’ image in the Western media. Premovic was convinced that the Western media reported on the breakup of the former Yugoslavia ‘falsely’.</i><br /><br />The testimony would indicate that <b>He was at the "brains center" when Srebrenica happened.</b> The bastard was there.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.sense-agency.com/icty/karadzic-we-ran-the-state-from-a-field.29.html?cat_id=1&news_id=13736" rel="nofollow">And from this testimony</a><br /><br /><i>Karadzic used the opportunity to highlight the fact that Slavica Ristic, Tom Prevovic and Srdja Trifkovic, ‘irritated by the way in which the Western media followed the disintegration of Yugoslavia’, co-founded the Lord Byron Foundation for Balkan Studies with Alfred Sherman. Former advisor to Margaret Thatcher, Sherman was also for some time advisor to him, Karadzic pointed.<br /><br />As the witness said, Srdja Trifkovic, who served as Karadzic’s spokesman for a time, was frustrated by the inability of the Bosnian Serb leadership to clearly articulate its opinions, ‘naively’ expecting that its interests could be safeguarded through peace talks.</i><br /><br />The Lord Byron foundation is a front orginsation for Serbian propaganda.<br /><br />But check out his wiki link. The important think to look at is the editing history. Someone has been scrubbing his profile clean for a while. <a href="http://toolserver.org/~tparis/articleinfo/index.php?article=Sr%C4%91a_Trifkovi%C4%87&lang=en&wiki=wikipedia" rel="nofollow">He has had 618 "revisions" of his bio.</a><br /><br />And to think this bastard occupies a voice in American Conservative opinion.<br /><br />No wonder Conservatism is on the fucking back foot, when the Serbian version of Goebbels is one of its "thinkers". Oh great, you can see the line, "Man with first hand knowledge of mass murder in Srebrenica, American mainstream conservative "thinker"". Won't that do the Right a world of good. <br /><br />Facepalm.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-63564459065119982692012-05-25T19:19:19.833+10:002012-05-25T19:19:19.833+10:00Has Srdja Trifkovic ever affirmed, endorsed or ado...Has Srdja Trifkovic ever affirmed, endorsed or adopted the statement "that Mr Alic, the xylophone-ribbed man, was a TB sufferer who looked like that normally"?CMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-70661199430600911282012-05-25T11:48:39.419+10:002012-05-25T11:48:39.419+10:00@Brendan
but I honestly have not met a single Cro...@Brendan<br /><br /><i>but I honestly have not met a single Croat or Serb personally who was not biased on this issue.</i><br /><br />Agreed. Most of Serbs and Croats who have migrated to the West usually came from the areas most affected by the violence. The Serb hatred of Croations and Croat hatred of the Serbs has a basis in reality. Be that as it may, there is an importance to understand the reality of what is going on there, if only to stop bloodshed.<br /><br />I want Serbia to be a happy place. Most of my Serbian patients are good people who just want the stuff that everyone else wants. A unstable country is a fertile breeding ground for all sorts of idiots.<br /><br />Hating Nazism is not the same as hating Germany which weaker minds have conflated. There is a difference between Serbian patriotism and Serbian Nationalism.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-42288154199573822092012-05-25T11:43:13.269+10:002012-05-25T11:43:13.269+10:00@Canuck
though Croats claim they are not in the ...@Canuck <br /><br /><i>though Croats claim they are not in the Balkans and even that they are not Slavs</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.slavorum.com/index.php?topic=1934.0" rel="nofollow">News to me.</a><br /><br /><i><br />Or do you just believe (like virtually Croat I've ever met) Serbs are uniquely evil? Because that is the impression you give. </i><br /><br />Can you quote me where I've said it?<br /><br /><i>They are both pretty awful at it always assuming whoever they are speaking to is an ignoramus.</i><br /><br />It's because they usually are. You're doing a good job yourself.<br /><br /><i>Would you agree that Croatian demands to rule over Serbian Krajina </i><br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Serbian_Krajina" rel="nofollow"> Here is a brief history of the area.</a><br /><br />Serbians who had fled from Ottoman rule in Serbia settled in this area of <b>the Austro-Hungarian empire</b>. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Frontier" rel="nofollow">They lived there, for centuries in peaceable neighborliness with Croats,who had lived there <b>previously.</b> </a> These are not my opinions they are objective facts.<br /><br />They only became "Serbian" once Serbian nationalists decided to appropriate them in the name of Gross-Serbia.<br /><br />You reveal yourself and your politics.<br /><br />Now I expect a basic degree of competency on the subject before I'm going to debate you. Now, if you're going to make this comments thread a forum for uninformed Serb or Croat bashing your going to get banned. I've got no problems with informed Croatian criticism, but bullshit I will not tolerate.<br /><br />First warning.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-51040038973502885792012-05-25T11:39:05.543+10:002012-05-25T11:39:05.543+10:00I am aware of the history, I just read it in a muc...I am aware of the history, I just read it in a much more messy and less clearly pro-Croat, anti-Serb manner than you do, which doesn't surprise me. I don't doubt that you mean to be sincere, but I honestly have not met a single Croat or Serb personally who was not biased on this issue.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-82395412676341652122012-05-25T11:20:09.116+10:002012-05-25T11:20:09.116+10:00@Brendan
I don't think it's really possib...@Brendan<br /><br /><i>I don't think it's really possible for Croats or Serbs </i><br /><br />Respectfully, I have to disagree because that's basically a way of saying we can never know about the truth of ourselves. It's a crypto form of ontological relativism. I think it is incumbent on any person to grasp a knowledge of the facts and look at them squarely. <br /><br />As someone with a Croatian background, I'm fully aware of the atrocities that the Croatians performed, and I repudiate them totally. What more do you want me to say? Am I being nonobjective in saying this?<br /><br />But my position on issues in the former Yugoslavia isn't based upon any genetic or cultural loyalty but as result of my studies and personal observation. When you start asking yourself questions like, "Why did people, who lived together peaceably for hundreds of years, start committing the most bestial atrocities to each other?", you've got to ask, What happened? Where did it go wrong? How can it be fixed? <br /><br />History did not begin in 1940. Yugoslavia was not some South Slav paradise that suddenly was destroyed by the appearance of Fascism <i>ex nihilo</i>. The Serb-Croat relationship became irrevocably damaged by the events between 1918-1940. Your bright enough to read up about it and the historical record is quite clear about what was going on.<br /><br />The thing which started the ball rolling and thing which sustains the hate is Serbian Nationalism of which Trifkovic is a supporter. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=1003" rel="nofollow">Even Chesterton, who was a great supporter of their cause, eventually lamented what Serbia had become.</a><br /><br />And I don't want you to think this is a Catholic-Orthodox thing. The Serb Nationalists were quite brutal against the Macedonians and Bulagarians as well in the East. Look it up if you don't believe me.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-39728480379168180512012-05-25T08:42:56.340+10:002012-05-25T08:42:56.340+10:00@Black Death
He never would have approved giving ...@Black Death<br /><br /><i>He never would have approved giving the Austrian emperor the famous "blank check,"</i><br /><br />The thing about the Austrians, though, is that they would have told Bismark to go to Hell. Although Austria is in the Germanic sphere, it's always played its own game.<br /><br /><i> I am astounded that you speak Croatian</i><br /><br />My parents were Croatian. I learned it as a child and then had to become more proficient in it as a result of my work. The alphabet is different but the languages are similar. More like different dialects than different languages. The real difference between the two is in their mindsets.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-36375871988696460762012-05-25T04:00:47.664+10:002012-05-25T04:00:47.664+10:00I agree that Trifkovic is a Serb chauvinist but yo...I agree that Trifkovic is a Serb chauvinist but you've really just given us the Croatian chauvinist version of the Balkans tragedy - though Croats claim they are not in the Balkans and even that they are not Slavs. (Slovenes will tell you the Balkans ends at <i>their</i> border and that Croats and Serbs are cut from the same cloth. I agree with the Slovenes, though Istrians are more Western - open-minded - than other Croats.) What's striking to me, an outsider, is how similarly over the top Croat and Serb propaganda is. They are both pretty awful at it always assuming whoever they are speaking to is an ignoramus. I guess that's why the Croats hired Western public relations firms to provide their spin to the gullible left wing Western media. <br /><br /><i> When you ignore the moderates you get the radicals.</i><br /><br />So would agree then that Albanian violence and oppression against Serbs in Kosovo from 1974 until the late 80s was a major reason for the Serb nationalism that followed?<br /><br />Would you also agree that the HDZ's extreme Croatian nationalism, including mass firing of Serb government employees in Zagreb and the rehabilitation of many Ustashe activists and symbols - long before the war - also contributed to Serb nationalism? If so why would you not consider that worth mentioning.<br /><br />Or do you just believe (like virtually Croat I've ever met) Serbs are uniquely evil? Because that is the impression you give. <br /><br /><i>To understand the war in Yugoslavia all needs is to understand the ideology of Grossdeutshland Greater Serbia.</i><br /><br />Would you agree that Croatian demands to rule over Serbian Krajina was a part of Greater Croatia ideology or were Tito's artificial borders sacred? <br /><br />Brendan <i> I don't think it's really possible for Croats or Serbs (or Bosnians for that matter), including those of such descent, to be objective about this, particularly since it's still so close to the burning wars of the 1990s. That's on all sides, really.</i><br /><br />I agree. Serbs and Croats are mirror images of each other yet neither of them can see it.Canucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-54009882228519166412012-05-25T02:31:09.202+10:002012-05-25T02:31:09.202+10:00Thanks. I always appreciate book recommendations.Thanks. I always appreciate book recommendations.CMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-61056546343929582162012-05-25T02:11:47.504+10:002012-05-25T02:11:47.504+10:00Ah, I see. I hadn't realized you were of Croa...Ah, I see. I hadn't realized you were of Croatian ancestry. Now I understand the approach a bit better. I don't think it's really possible for Croats or Serbs (or Bosnians for that matter), including those of such descent, to be objective about this, particularly since it's still so close to the burning wars of the 1990s. That's on all sides, really.Brendannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-42590019570497762652012-05-25T02:11:41.024+10:002012-05-25T02:11:41.024+10:00@SP -
I think what Bismarck meant was that German...@SP -<br /><br />I think what Bismarck meant was that Germany had no vital interest in the Balkans and shouldn't be involved there. He was right, of course. Too bad that he wasn't around in 1914. He never would have approved giving the Austrian emperor the famous "blank check," which probably would have prevented WW I.<br /><br />I am astounded that you speak Croatian. How did you ever learn it and why did you decide to do so? I speak fluent German and passable Russian, but when I was in Zagreb a few weeks ago, no one wanted to speak anything but English to me. I could understand some of the Croatian words because of their similarity to Russian, but not many. I have heard that the Serbian and Croatian languages are pretty much the same, except that Croatian is written in the Latin alphabet and Serbian, in the Cyrillic. True?Black Deathnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-26333115276915908702012-05-25T01:00:57.091+10:002012-05-25T01:00:57.091+10:00@CMC
I don't know how many books I've rea...@CMC<br /><br />I don't know how many books I've read about the region over my lifetime. I'm familiar with Misha Glenny's book, which I feel has a strongly pro-Serb bias. The best book I read on the subject was Mark Almond's, Europe's Backyard War.<br /><br />I don't read Cyrillic but am Fluent in Croatian. I took an interest in the war whilst it was happening and was able to follow the Croat and Serbian news. The worst sources of news were paradoxically the local ethnic ones. I like to read between the lines.<br /><br />Being fluent in the language and a medical practitioner, I got to see a lot of the refugees Serb/Muslim/Croat that were settled in my bit of the world. I got a lot of first hand reports. It was a brutal war.<br /><br />I think I have a degree of competence on the subject.<br /><br />There were many Serbs who behaved honourably but there were some who were just appalling. The skill is in picking between the two. Not lumping people all in one group.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-32995914850572692002012-05-25T00:24:37.004+10:002012-05-25T00:24:37.004+10:00@ CMC: Slumlord has admitted that he's of Croa...@ CMC: Slumlord <a href="http://patriactionary.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/father-knows-best-last-minute-edition/#comment-6758" rel="nofollow">has admitted</a> that he's of Croatian ancestry.Will S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02714519301979594160noreply@blogger.com