tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post5014477901111251897..comments2024-03-28T17:58:56.707+11:00Comments on The Social Pathologist: CharityThe Social Pathologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-20769251311867318512012-05-27T11:46:20.615+10:002012-05-27T11:46:20.615+10:00@SP,
I think it was the last, missing link. Look ...@SP,<br /><br />I think it was the last, missing link. Look for a pingback in a few days. I cannot tell you what a superb article this is. Absolutely fantastic.ElectricAngelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-74042186151999705212012-05-26T12:50:20.774+10:002012-05-26T12:50:20.774+10:00@ElectricAngel
Thank you, and I really mean it. S...@ElectricAngel<br /><br />Thank you, and I really mean it. Sometimes I really wonder if it is worth the effort. <br /><br />We are all "ray guns" of sorts.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-13235002907198603392012-05-26T12:28:44.384+10:002012-05-26T12:28:44.384+10:00SP,
I want you to know that this article of yours...SP,<br /><br />I want you to know that this article of yours has OWNED a place in my brain for weeks now. I keep coming back to it. The charity ray gun. You are a superb analogist.<br /><br />You have truly earned the title of Doctor.ElectricAngelhttp://patriactionary.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-61515195445569446612012-04-24T04:30:47.809+10:002012-04-24T04:30:47.809+10:00Beg to differ. I've read both, and while I agr...Beg to differ. I've read both, and while I agree Atomised (The Elementary Particles) is the more powerful of the two, I don't see Platform as some sort of deal-breaker book vis a vis the value of Houellebecq's writings or character. Strong agree with SP on reality. Have you read Bill Naughton's Alfie?CMCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-79296728636281676252012-04-24T02:08:29.395+10:002012-04-24T02:08:29.395+10:00There's a big difference between Atomised and ...There's a big difference between Atomised and Platform. Atomised makes you have pity of the guy. Platform, not so much. I still think you should read it. <br /><br />On Charity, I don't know. You're telling us to rely on revelation and intuition to ascertain God's will and help people upon it. You might as well tell us to shut up and go to Mass and pray.<br /><br />I've lived abroad in different countries, and the problem is not a lack of people helping others become what God wants them to become (your definition). Non Christian pre-modern countries are generally as pleasant as Christendom was. <br /><br />Modernity is unpleasant because it has made hedonism possible for the masses. Before, you had to be nice and help others because maximizing your pleasure brought you a quick death.spandrellhttp://bloodyshovel.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-26660615430883665482012-04-23T20:24:15.202+10:002012-04-23T20:24:15.202+10:00@Robert Brockman
Charity is an immaterial quality...@Robert Brockman<br /><br />Charity is an immaterial quality that is given to us which helps perfect the intellect as well. I don't think it has much to do with information processing quality, that's why the fools are sometimes wise and wise sometimes fools.<br /><br />I think there is such a thing a charitable impulse which is felt through out other cultures, but it requires revelation for proper expression. That's why we see good in many cultures.<br /><br />@Anon9:06<br />Very true and wise.<br /><br />@mdavid.<br />I can see how you think that. Though I put up some more explanatory notes in my next post.<br /><br />@Spandrell<br /><i><br />And w'ere supposed to know that through divine inspiration, I suppose. </i><br /><br />Revelation is important. But also think that sometimes intuition points in that direction as well. In Ferdinand's post, The Age of Onanism, Ferdinand, though he has fallen from the faith, still recognises that the West has a problem with social autism. The real question is why does he have a disquiet about this state of affairs? Lots of others don't.<br /><br />It's this sense that somethings wrong that is probably the prompting of charity.<br /><br />As for platform I've read the synopsis of it. Look, Houellebecq's novels are gritty and pornographic, but that's what sex turns into when there is no overriding imperative to do good. If people are revolted at reality it's only because they are comfortable living in a world of lies.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-52131064745082864932012-04-23T02:03:43.132+10:002012-04-23T02:03:43.132+10:00"The effect of Charity then is to bring the e..."The effect of Charity then is to bring the effected target in alignment with God's idea of it."<br /><br />And w'ere supposed to know that through divine inspiration, I suppose. <br /><br />Oh well. Have you read Platform? I wonder if you'd be so compassionate of Houellebecq after it.spandrellhttp://bloodyshovel.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-74573396653977167462012-04-23T01:29:39.901+10:002012-04-23T01:29:39.901+10:00SP, Charity, for example, does not permit divorce ...SP, <i>Charity, for example, does not permit divorce (at least frivolous ones)</i><br /><br />Ahh, the seeds of relativism are planted deep! Even SP's blog offers no relief...:-)mdavidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-56117093978672102862012-04-22T21:36:58.605+10:002012-04-22T21:36:58.605+10:00"Finally, what charity allows is the possibil..."Finally, what charity allows is the possibility of true love. Unlike hedonism, which loves for the pleasure it receives and fades when it there is no longer any pleasure, charity binds regardless and raises the possibility of eternal renewal."<br /><br />"Le plaisir est le bonheur des fous, le bonheur est le plaisir des sages." Jules Barbey d'Aurevilly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-23320413569787535452012-04-22T17:00:29.178+10:002012-04-22T17:00:29.178+10:00Also, the Sufi enterprise, at least as described b...Also, the Sufi enterprise, at least as described by Idries Shah, would seem to be congruent with Charity as defined here.<br /><br />Shah's work seems to focus very strongly on "what will actually help" as opposed to "what will make us feel good."Robert Brockmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-83244913341240359552012-04-22T16:57:43.959+10:002012-04-22T16:57:43.959+10:00Yes, this is it exactly.
When a sick person com...Yes, this is it exactly. <br /><br />When a sick person comes into your office, you are going to try to heal them. The reason for this isn't because you want to get paid, or because you like the person, or because it makes you feel better about yourself, etc., etc., even though these things may also be true. The reason you will try to heal them is because "the sick are to be healed."<br /><br />[The car repair example has been given to me before by a powerful doctor, the head of several departments and author of dozens of books in his field.]<br /><br />The very notion that someone is sick or something is broken implies that the person or thing has a possible configuration that is healthy or fixed and therefore objectively more correct.<br /><br />Note that the Force of Charity can be accessed in more than one way. For example, there are many "atheist" and agnostic scientists who are viscerally dedicated to pursuing a true and accurate understanding of the workings of the universe. Revealingly, materialism cannot provide a justification for why such an objective would be important. Perhaps it follows from the nature of information processing systems?<br /><br />It doesn't take much work to realize that the scientific enterprise requires a civilization possessing a laundry list of other virtues in order to be successful.Robert Brockmannoreply@blogger.com