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Your analysis of this situation is brill...Hey S.P.<br /><br />Your analysis of this situation is brilliant based on certain assumptions that hold true in the West, but not in Iran. Consequently your analysis falls short in my humble estimation.<br /><br />In the East there are few "beta men" in the Western sense. Every man is brought up to believe that he is to lead a family and that is his proper place. His wife is to submit to him and raise children. Iranian women are notoriously independent minded and difficult and consequently throw a lot of weight in the marriage as compared to other Eastern cultures (e.g. Arabs and Pakistanis). However, overall the concept of marriage is still very traditional in Iran.<br /><br />The part that you are missing is that becoming an engineer is not simply a social status boost, which may act as a crutch to satisfy female hypergamy but falls short in the actual marriage itself. The idea is that for a woman who is an engineer, it is insufficient to simply find a man who portrays alpha characteristics (which can be found in plenty in eastern societies.) The issue becomes that now that she is an engineer, it is socially looked down upon for her to marry someone with a lower income or of a lower social/educational class. In other words, it is not the alpha traits that are missing, but the difference in social status that is the problem. Add the heavy involvement of family in the marriage process and you have a problem.<br /><br />If a man with alpha traits proposes to an Iranian female engineer, but he is not an engineer, his chances of being accepted by the woman's family is drastically decreased. If a man with alpha traits and an engineering job proposes, he will get accepted. If a man with alpha traits proposes to an Iranian girl but neither of them are engineers, his chances are not hurt. That is the proper calculus. The engineer thing acts as a preventative factor for women in upper IQ category, and this is more important than the promotionary benefits of a man being an engineer.AnonymousYouthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-45553664496863218742014-02-24T13:24:32.601+11:002014-02-24T13:24:32.601+11:00SP, another digression. Sorry I can't help it...SP, another digression. Sorry I can't help it.<br /><br />"The aeroplane is like a woman. To get the best out of her you have to seduce, not rape her."<br /><br />Great quote. On two occasions many years apart I flew with a pilot of the same generation of the man that this quote is attributed to. <br /><br />The plane was a Bonanza V-tail 'Doctor Killer' as some call them. He connected with that plane as if it was an extension of himself. Subtle throttle adjustments as he put the plane through its paces, banking to show me the geologic characteristics of the terrain below. Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12654032764386427929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-66796733688631940082013-03-28T01:34:43.667+11:002013-03-28T01:34:43.667+11:00slot games can of conditions, including screening ...slot games can of conditions, including screening the tax financial obligation, the companionship's representatives said they couldn't encounter the demands. [url=http://www.onlinecasinoburger.co.uk/]online casinos[/url] <a href="http://www.onlinecasinotaste.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">online casino</a> It is not gorillas in the gold? http://www.onlinecasinotaste.co.uk/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-55916404794089678652013-02-27T12:13:38.967+11:002013-02-27T12:13:38.967+11:00@alpha1
I don't know who suggested Iran would...@alpha1<br /><br />I don't know who suggested Iran would be a model to follow (of course that shithole cannot be an example to the West), but one thing is true: Since women started to vote, the welfare state started to grow, along with public UNSUSTAINABLE debt. If you don´t believe me you can look in Google for the scientific paper regarding this pattern in the U.S. and U.K. and that model can be easily extrapolated to the rest of the western world. By the way, alpha1, for an alpha, you sound like a beta, of course I like to look at women in skin-tight clothes, however worshipping them or qualifying them as strong and independent just for being women when just a few (1% at most) really are those things is really sickening.<br /><br />"The reason we will never have success is because of people like SP who can see so much of the problem but when push comes to shove the idea of a successful "daddy's little girl" charms them, the idea of a daughter subject to another man's son sickens them, so they sell out the male sex. This is a form of insanity."<br /><br />I might not agree completely with you anonymous but I can see that such a disease really exists, specially detectable amongst men who "train" their daughters to be almost as strong as they are, effectively ensuring their daughters will never be happy unless they are lucky enough to snatch a billionaire mercenary and those who shudder at the thought of their daughters being effectively dominated by a man (aka husband).<br /><br />By the way SP, if you think in the past there was such a thing as affirmative action for beta males, just shows that you may know a lot about psychology but not much about history. If anything, BETA MALES IN THE PAST DIED EARLY DEATHS. This is confirmed by the fact that only those able to fight successully survived, and only 40% of all males in history ever get to reproduce. Nice guys is an aberration of the last 2 centuries.J.M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11878053615804408121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-50059858359776774932012-10-17T04:16:45.621+11:002012-10-17T04:16:45.621+11:00Incidentally, there is an abundance of over-educat...Incidentally, there is an abundance of over-educated, unmarried spinsters in Iran. I should know, one of them is practically my best friend online. She's a chemistry PhD. She knows she should have married when she was young. <br /><br />The Iranians recognize the grave social problems their little experiment with feminism has caused - demographic problems. They are trying to take some reasonable steps to deal with their excessive numbers of unnecessarily highly educated women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-70515973418138248512012-10-17T04:14:12.860+11:002012-10-17T04:14:12.860+11:00"Desirable men don't have a problem getti..."Desirable men don't have a problem getting married."<br /><br />This is a very stupid comment. It's tantamount to blame unemployment on laziness. It doesn't take much to shift an "undesirable" man to being a desirable one. It doesn't take much to reduce the number of suitable women for men who in past societies could have married someone with something like their level of intelligence and sexual experience.<br /><br />You would never say "desirable women have no trouble getting married" and expect anyone to take such a comment seriously.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-37189685786712100462012-10-17T03:44:32.208+11:002012-10-17T03:44:32.208+11:00Women don't have a right to 50% of the jobs in...Women don't have a right to 50% of the jobs in fields where half the qualification is being immune from being called a "creep" <br /><br />"Taking away rights from women" = demanding that women not be permitted to lie, cheat, whore, and falsely accuse their way to "success." Giving rights to men means not letting a "white knights" pile onto the affirmative action system.<br /><br />Just about everything critical in society requires the expertise of men. There is hardly any critical task that depends on the female, except motherhood.<br /><br />Women don't have the right to be socially entitled whores. It's incredibly ironic to accuse those who want to get rid of affirmative action for women of actually supporting "affirmative action" for beta men. <br /><br />The reason we will never have success is because of people like SP who can see so much of the problem but when push comes to shove the idea of a successful "daddy's little girl" charms them, the idea of a daughter subject to another man's son sickens them, so they sell out the male sex. This is a form of insanity. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-4667856511690937532012-10-16T05:51:33.662+11:002012-10-16T05:51:33.662+11:00" He has to be smarter, wiser, and more chall..." He has to be smarter, wiser, and more challenging than the woman. "<br /><br />Why would a man date and marry someone like himself but a bit more stupid and bit less challenging? Where is the pleasure in that? Wouldn't a man want a complete opposite that would compliment things he lacks in himself and vice versa - fill the flaws of a woman, i.e., smart woman and strong man. They both can do more things together than a smart man and a bit less smart woman. This example, of course, is simplified, but I trust you got the idea.Eranonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-16627536105334011122012-10-07T18:34:29.955+11:002012-10-07T18:34:29.955+11:00I would be inclined to agree with your statement:
...I would be inclined to agree with your statement:<br />"Calls to take away the rights of women are really nothing more than an affirmative action program for weak and beta men. Desirable men don't have a problem getting married."<br /><br />However, your premise that women have merely been "liberated" to "compete with men without restriction" is incomplete. Women have not merely been freed on an equal playing field with men. Rather, they have been socially and legally encouraged, empowered, and supported. They have been forced and driven to succeed. Men, in contrast, have been mocked, held back, demotivated, and disempowered. Helping women up while holding men back is not an equal competition. It is a lot more than "liberation".<br /><br />Being a social pathologist, I respectfully assume you know about the profound effect that these roles and norms can have on human behavior. Therefore, I ask you... Could this drastic change be the result of changing roles and norms for men and women? When women are now cast as heroes and CEOs, while men are rapists and losers, is it any wonder why most people just go with it? Most are just sheep following the shepherd of social influence. So, let us not make the fundamental attribution error...and blame men for their failures, or women their successes, when neither deserve them. Social change is driving this...both men and women are simply following the new roles.<br /><br />Beyond that, I do agree with your assessment. There are tons of mewing beta men that want affirmative action because they can't get a women without it. Furthermore, the 1950's model of male/female roles was such a system, stacked in men's favor. That truly wasn't fair to the talented, powerful, and intelligent women of the time. <br /><br />But again, what we have today is past "equal". It allows the below average women, with affirmative action, to outperform and subjugate men instead. It didn't balance the scales...it subjugated and invalidated men as women were previously subjugated. Is it any wonder then why men of today are acting and performing incompetently like women of the 1950s? They are in the same role/situation that made women perform badly and kept them down. So, why do we expect something different from men?<br /><br />What we need is to have a fair set of rules. We need everyone to stop trying to "fix" those rules so they are sure to win. Once that happens, then the attractive will find each other...and the unappealing will be left to settle for each other. <br /><br />Yes, there are some of us men who can excel even now. More could make it work if they learned and tried harder. But, it truly is not an equal playing field. So, for a true social change - both men and women have to be told they are equal, laws need to be equal, then we'll see who is really alpha/beta out of both genders.Dr. Jeremyhttp://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-28700536982712159092012-10-06T21:19:06.146+10:002012-10-06T21:19:06.146+10:00This post, or rather the ideology behind it is clo...This post, or rather the ideology behind it is close to the root of all evil - no offence Herr Doktor. Darwin, quite understandably, never intended his theories to be used prescriptively like this. In fact he went to great pains to point out after the publication of "On the Origin of Species..." that there was great moral danger in doing so. Yet, here you are, another Darwinist, declaring his theory fact and projecting it forward as a prescription for human behaviour, all the while neglecting the fact that stating the "fact" of hypergamy does not make it right. <br /><br />Being a doctor gives you credibility, yet the idea you seem to be promoting by this is that because hypergamy is an instinct, it is therefore not to be considered wrong, knowing full well that a human person is much more than the sum of his parts. <br /><br />Now, at the risk of casting yet another preciosu pearl before swine and also perhaps stating the bleeding obvious, I want to state that a human <b>being</b> is differentiated from his human animal counterpart by his greater desire to prosecute things as they <i>ought</i> to be than to be controlled by things as they 'are'. If indeed the 'facts' upheld by the the lowing pseudo-scientific herd could be said to 'be'. This ability and desire possessed in the higher thoughts of men is what we who prefer the <i>being</i> side of humanity like to call civilisation. On the civilised side, then, hypergamy is a conniving bitch that needs to be slapped down. <br /><br />Clearly, men of stouter heart than the garden faeries of the "manosphere" - i.e. Roosh et al. will never understand the moral imperative behind this, but thankfully men of stouter heart do. These men, if they need a label, are the men who know in their hearts the problem is an eternal one and that they must devote their lives to its solution. This, for the preservation of the personhood of our sons and grandsons. Dalrock, Elam, Vox, Rollo, Price, Harlan, Berkimer, Zed are the saints among us, as are all the men and women they lead, support and sustain in this noblest of fights. They are the machete wielders holding back the choking feminine jungle. <br /><br />It's interesting that even as the feminine jungle feeds on the stillborn carcases from that morally degenerate Darwin-Nietzschean union - otherwise known as Modern Science - its surviving but degenerate siblings are still staring hungrily at its rudimentary teat as though the milk of human kindness will flow from it. It conjures up a mental image that would be hysterically funny if it wasn't so utterly hopeless. Jacob Ian Stalknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-5849607814014703202012-10-06T06:34:02.640+10:002012-10-06T06:34:02.640+10:00Not being a regular reader, I should probably Man ...Not being a regular reader, I should probably Man Up and be the strong, silent type... But when did the precious darlings go from being Germaine's Daughters (7/06) to the (now) strutting Masters of the Universe, declaring that men aren't good enough and need to improve themselves - like both "Game" and Feminism do?<br /><br />Martian Bachelornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-30079214323657724872012-10-06T05:33:05.325+10:002012-10-06T05:33:05.325+10:00brothers, No one will respond to my post, as assum...brothers, No one will respond to my post, as assumed. I am a troll or whatever, that is my point.<br />It is weak that no body will "man up"<br />I can say that cause we are on the same team!<br /><br />as in "football" Give me 5 reasons u guys support a woman Hating country such as iran NOW!<br /><br />that is the exact weakness that a woman sees inside of you.<br /><br />please release this hate u have inside for the opposite sex.<br /><br />they cans sense the hate and contempt.<br /><br />If you demonstrate character and the power to stand behind your words a woman will be attracted to that trait. you have basically just seen the reason u fail with females WEAKNESS.<br /><br />The second u can adore her presence and be supporting without submission. she will share with you a piece of her pie.<br /><br />this hate is only hurting yourself<br /><br />I beg of you please don't undermine the free country (For men and Women) I know and love.<br /><br />Now If there is A set of nuttz anywhere! let him post three reasons or Five<br />why Iran has got it figured out.<br /><br />And I will stand down<br /><br />Alpha 1<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-88876955797471304292012-10-06T04:40:01.923+10:002012-10-06T04:40:01.923+10:00"Now, suppose we take a bright girl and delib..."Now, suppose we take a bright girl and deliberately hamper her education and deny her economic liberty in order to make her dependent on a man. Now, suppose we introduce her to some buffoon who has finished at Harvard."<br /><br />In truth, this DOES happen. But to the extent that is does happen the trend is in the reverse--woman are the buffoons with the artificial status and men are having done to them what is being done to the women in Iran. And you not only can't see it, but you seem to have no problem with it so long as men are being kept down. <br /><br />Many men find other ways to achieve though. Not that you can see that.<br /><br />"In my experience, women today seem to have more "balls" than men do. They seem more driven, more ambitious and can make stuff happen. They seem to cope better with adversity than many of my male patients. With most women, life goes on. The kids need to be fed, the uniforms washed and the bills paid. Many men flounder. My readers may not like this but they are my objective observations."<br /><br />You DO understand that far more women than men are currently on high powered psychotropic medications for depression and generalized "anxiety" than men are, don't you?? Those are not my objective observations. Those are the facts.<br /><br />"What many manosphere commentators fail to recognise is that the nice computer nerd is the male equivalent of the nice fat chick."<br /><br />No. Not even close. The computer nerd has a great mind geared toward specific interests that the economic marketplace can capitalize on. His only fault is a little social awkwardness which can be cured with practice. And if it can't, who gives a fuck. That's the woman's loss. <br /><br />The slothful fat chick is characterized by a total lack of self-control and most likely a totally toxic personality. She's also probably a entitled slut. No amount of social practice makes her attractive to men. See the difference? Of course not.<br /><br />Look, if you hate men or hate yourself fine. Just come out and say it. But don't try to couch and camouflage this hatred in some dopey social science posting. Honestly, how did you get YOUR job??& The Revolutionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-69601455422676704042012-10-06T04:39:22.819+10:002012-10-06T04:39:22.819+10:00This is a very incoherent post.
First you say thi...This is a very incoherent post.<br /><br />First you say this:<br /><br />"Hypergamy simply can't be socially engineered away"<br /><br />Then you say this (IN BOLD):<br /><br />"The problem with female hypergamy is that is is relative to the woman's own ability and status"<br /><br />You're saying two different things here about the definition of hypergamy and the nature of woman and their conscious desires and decisions while blaming men for all of it. <br /><br />First, by the definition of hypergamic character you provide in the second bolded text, hypergamy CAN be engineered away precisely the way it is done in Iran--by denying woman professional opportunity. If hypergamy is relative to a woman's own social status and ability than denying her the opportunity for said social status WILL curve her hypergamic tendency. She will necessarily be placed on a lower rung of society so--based on the definitions you provided--she will then find many more men suitably attractive to her as life-mates and be more likely to remain in that union. I'm not advocating for this--simply operating within the constructs you have provided. <br /><br />Second, you can't seem to make up your mind what hypergamy is. Is it innate or is it a function of environment? Nature or nurture? Both? You've already contradicted yourself as I've pointed out above and you try to cover yourself by including the nebulous terms "intelligence" and "ability" as a catch-all. How is it a man's fault if a woman is born with a higher IQ than him?<br /><br />Is hypergamy a function of the type of brain-power one is born with as measured on standard intelligence tests or the S.A.T., a function of how good a job some woman has or both? <br /><br />If it's solely the former, than in any pairing where the female has a higher IQ than the male--thru NO FAULT of the male or the result of him not having any "balls" (whatever the fuck that means)--then that marriage is destined to fail. If it's the latter than steps can be taken to curb it (the Iran method) and produce a well-matched happy union. <br /><br />If it's both, than in any situation where the male--again, through no fault of his own--either is born with a lower IQ or suffers some life-change like a job loss, personal injury etc that lowers his earning power regardless of his level of education or personal drive, than that union is destined to fail and/or that male is going to be seem as a ball-less loser by you and the woman. You have no standards here. TO you, hypergamy is anything and everything, a function of both nature and nurture but all outcomes are a man's fault. Absurd. <br /><br />You seem to presume that the reason males are allegedly not achieving in the manner you and the females would prefer (a premise I don't accept at all) is solely due to the fact that he doesn't have the ability. Just as you assume that all these females with all these degrees in all these well-paying jobs got there solely because of their ability. To the extent that this occurs, that's not the case at all. The world is NOT a true meritocracy. In many cases, women get hired because they are women--by both other women and men who prefer the soft sexless harem of the office to compensate for the fact that his wife castrated him years ago at home. Got it? I can't believe you don't understand this. <br /><br />You seem to presume that the silly paper pushing jobs most of these women hold--especially in government employment but also in marketing, pr, hr, and anything else non-value added--are just too challenging for males. Wrong. The truth is that the males have no problem doing these jobs and may have applied for these jobs. Most likely, they were passed over for the (not quite as smart or strong or physically stamia-ed) chicky chick cuz she smells better and everybody likes looking at her body, or in cases where a woman makes the hiring decision b/c that guy like all guys just reminds the woman of the husband she castrated long ago in her own home. <br /><br />& The Revolutionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-60968319418122427802012-10-06T02:33:20.655+10:002012-10-06T02:33:20.655+10:00You refute the early part of your post by saying &...You refute the early part of your post by saying "hypergamy is that is is relative to the woman's own ability and status."<br /><br />Women typically view education, degrees in particular as status symbols. That's a permanent validation for her whether or not her degree is useful. Such a woman can be "taken down a peg" but only temporarily, as the degree will always be there to help her boost it back up. <br /><br />Also, your view of men in comparison to women seems to suffer from selection bias. Particularly in reference to the fact men will tend to develop coping mechanisms on their own, while women are much more eager to talk about their problems. Women would go to therapy as a way to use their therapist as a sounding board to make sure they're on the right track. Men would go because they lack proper coping skills in the first place. Ceernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-8163898536626078362012-10-05T22:32:10.329+10:002012-10-05T22:32:10.329+10:00for the first time women were able to compete with...<i>for the first time women were able to compete with men in society without restriction.</i><br /><br />It's all quotas.<br /><br />========<br />http://www.chron.com/business/article/EEOC-sues-Home-Depot-over-women-s-job-status-2018975.php<br /><br />EEOC sues Home Depot over women's job status<br /><br />The company is currently under two consent decrees, ... that require it to hire and promote women fairly. Home Depot paid about $90 million to settle those two cases.<br />========<br /><br /><i>men still overwhelming dominate the "hard" fields of knowledge</i><br /><br />ie: the real work. <br /><br /><i>the fact that there are now more degree credentialed women than men is simply astonishing.</i><br /><br />Quotas, subsidized tuition programs for women, dumbing down, fluff degrees like psychotherapist etc.<br /><br />Heres a woman who attended college and has a Bachelor of Music.<br /><br />She earns her living as a writer. She recently wrote a book. It is titled "Selected Unpublished Blog Posts of a Mexican Panda Express Employee"<br /><br />Here is an excerpt from that book:<br /><i>“i want to delete everything from someone’s computer except a giant microsoft paint picture of a dick that takes forever to load”</i>Toadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-70557492329041275552012-10-05T12:18:53.433+10:002012-10-05T12:18:53.433+10:00What I'm hearing is that almost everyone here ...What I'm hearing is that almost everyone here agree's with a wicked tyrant A hole in Iran. we should next have our women cover their entire bodies face and neck in a black shaw.<br />that is a world I would hate. I love looking at women in tight revealing clothes. <br /><br /> this is a world for not only beta men but omega mainly. never gonna happen man the f up d bags<br /><br />Alpha 1<br />peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-13911017387312068022012-10-05T07:34:40.290+10:002012-10-05T07:34:40.290+10:00What many manosphere commentators fail to recognis...<i>What many manosphere commentators fail to recognise is that the nice computer nerd is the male equivalent of the nice fat chick.</i><br /><br />Apart from other posters highlighting the social benefits of computer nerdery vs the no benefits of obesity, I don't think the manosphere fails to recognize the equivalency much at all. Game is all about helping the computer nerd lose that metaphorical weight.<br /><br />The main frustration is the hypocrisy and denial-- the women who swear up and down that computer nerd should just be himself and he'll eventually find the right match for his unique and special personality. Precious few men, even outside the manosphere, would tell that kind of lie to a fat chick.<br /><br />Furthermore, status is significantly determined by culture, perception, and social factors. You can join a fraternity and get more female attention. You can pretend to be a celebrity and get more female attention. You can't pretend to be thin when you're not (except on the internet).Ladnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-56614902487873434072012-10-05T06:53:18.691+10:002012-10-05T06:53:18.691+10:00@ Slumlord:
"Women have long ago realised t...@ Slumlord:<br /><br />"Women have long ago realised that if you want a man you have to look pretty or put out."<br /><br />Well, half true. If she puts out or looks pretty, she can get a man for sex, but not much else. She IMAGINES she can get the man if she is pretty or puts out, but what she in fact gets is sex. She needs to bring more to the table. <br /><br /> Slumlord: "Men seem to have a very hard time accepting the fact that being attractive to women is conditional to having certain qualities. A lot of the manosphere bleating against female hypergamy is a lot like fat women complaining against men's preference for thinness."<br /><br />There are a couple of reasons for this. <br /><br />(1) Most of these men have spent their entire lives hearing from every woman within earshot that "all I want is a nice guy who will treat me right". When they learn this is not true, they have to learn to replace it with the truth. IN short, old habits and thought patterns die hard. <br /><br />(2) A lot of the railing against hypergamy is not so much to eradicate it, but to get people to understand it. Female hypergamy is one of the least understood phenomena in modern society. Quite simply, the average man and woman know nothing about it because no one ever talks about it. Looking at the damage that completely unrestrained hypergamy has done to American society, it's easy to see why. <br /><br />deti <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-19558516048987069122012-10-05T02:52:50.409+10:002012-10-05T02:52:50.409+10:00GKC replies to SP on the success of women in schoo...GKC replies to SP on the success of women in school:<br /><br /><i>No they aren't. My experience in school was they were advanced in an effort at fairness and where they achieved parity the discipline was destroyed. I remember my own failures here where we were group grading an English assignment. A girl did a terrible job and my friend and I were about to eviscerate her. Then she started crying. Our natural defense instincts kicked in and she was given a chance that no man would have gotten.</i><br /><br />So she got what she wanted, when she wanted it. That's not success? It is a very common definition of the term. The system was bent to meet her wants - success. You and your associates bent to her tears - success, and lesson learned for you, clearly: submit to women's tears, no matter what. A lesson you obviously carry to the present day.<br /><br /><i>Men should "man up". </i><br /><br />This much abused term <i>traditionally</i> has been used by men who are on the same team. Be it football (either version), long distance running, development team, factory floor, under the car in the dark fixing the brakes, or squad mates in the military, only a man's <i>comrade</i>, <i>buddy</i>, <i>mate</i>, etc. had the right to say that. <br /><br />The persons now using this term - Hannah Rosin, for example, or Bill Bennett - are doing so on behalf of women. They are ordering men to cause harm to themselves, for the benefit of women who have nothing but contempt for them. They are telling men "Take one for the team - no, not <i>your</i> team, but for the <i>other</i> team. And that is why the term is generating such a response from men. I do not expect you or SP to understand this, I merely lay it out for the benefit of others. <br /><br /><i>In fact, I hate that this is used as a ridicule in so many androsphere circles.</i><br /><br />See the above explanation. Or reflect on the fact that it's mainly being trotted out in the mass media by feminists and their White Knight toadies, in order to shame men into marrying sluts. Perhaps your ire is not directed in the appropriate direction?<br /><br /><i> We grow into men by being told to man up.</i><br /><br />Told that by men who are on our side, who have our interests in common with their interests. We do not grow into men by being told to "man up" by aging, feminist harpies or gambling-addicted men who cannot see any bad behavior by women as mattering at all. <br /><br /><i> And yes, WOMEN, should tell us this. </i><br /><br /><br />No. The only woman who has that right is a young man's mother, and even she loses that right at some point in his maturation. You once again reveal your worshipful pedestalization of women with this. You wish for Big Mommy to be pleased at your efforts. A woman who would demand of a man, "Man up" is a woman displaying her control over him, and her contempt of him. Such a woman is in <i>competition</i> with him in some sense or other. There is no way she can be his team mate, unless she's under his authority, and then to tell him to "man up" is rebellion. <br /><br />Any woman who tells a man "man up" does not have his interests at heart. He should avoid her as much as possible, from then on, forever. <br /><br />SP, you can cheer for Team Woman all you want. It won't change the facts, such as the difference between Var(g) for men vs. women. And that variance is the real reason for "under-representation" of women in science and engineering. Not dat debbil Patriarchy.Anonymous Readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-34848395431928537212012-10-05T02:13:56.222+10:002012-10-05T02:13:56.222+10:00Slumlord
All women are attracted to beta traits.
...Slumlord<br /><i>All women are attracted to beta traits.</i><br /><br />No. This is false. There are tens of millions of beta-trait men who could explain this to you in great, personal detail. If memory serves, this has been explained to you before, too, more than once.<br /><br /><i> Every woman is quite truthful when she says that she want's a nice guy. What she fails to mention though is that she wants a nice guy with alpha traits. A loveable bastard.</i><br /><br />You have confused attraction traits with security/comfort traits. The "nice guy" traits are desired in men <i>that women find attractive</i>, those traits are not attractive in and of themselves.<br /><br />This is a basic truth of male/female relations. That you cannot seem to keep such a fundamental fact clear in your head is interesting. It may explain why this posting is so ridiculous. <br /><br />Because you start with a false premise.<br /><br />False premise -> no meaningful conclusion. It's not even wrong...Anonymous Readernoreply@blogger.com