tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post1532163843201401272..comments2024-03-29T18:16:16.530+11:00Comments on The Social Pathologist: Catholic InertiaThe Social Pathologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-33933345132312138502018-08-07T08:53:24.130+10:002018-08-07T08:53:24.130+10:00@MK
I think you mean "withOUT some kind of.....@MK<br /><br /><i>I think you mean "withOUT some kind of..."</i><br /><br />Yes, that is correct. The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-64846337097000413792018-08-05T04:27:48.160+10:002018-08-05T04:27:48.160+10:00SP: He had no plan to take the bastards on.
Yes, ...<b>SP: He had no plan to take the bastards on.</b><br /><br />Yes, this. What a fine post.<br /><br /><i>SP: It is my opinion that there will be no restoration with some kind of Christian restoration.</i><br /><br />I think you mean "withOUT some kind of..."MKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-59913143474718931132018-07-19T08:50:36.665+10:002018-07-19T08:50:36.665+10:00@John Milton
Therefore it does not and cannot cha...@John Milton<br /><br /><i>Therefore it does not and cannot change</i><br /><br />And yet it has.<br /><br />Slavery, Usury, Conscience, Tolerance and ideas of salvation outside the Church, etc.<br /><br />We don't crusade anymore.<br /><br />Oh, and it's not a question of making it relevant to the modern world, it's actually an issue of trying to discern the mind of God. The recognition of the "intrinsic evil of slavery" was a long time coming in the Church even though it is a repository of the Faith.<br />The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-75353317578001490642018-07-19T02:14:05.426+10:002018-07-19T02:14:05.426+10:00I would say that the RCC's official (Tridentin...I would say that the RCC's official (Tridentine) position is that capital "T" Tradition is a body of faith and practice that goes back to Christ and the Apostles. Therefore it does not and cannot change. And if it is unpopular, and no one in the world wants to be Catholic anymore, so much the worse for them. Christianity is not a product to be sold by making it relevant to the modern world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-23997459218249115812018-07-18T03:46:53.582+10:002018-07-18T03:46:53.582+10:00I don't like Nietzsche, truth be told, but he ...I don't like Nietzsche, truth be told, but he said one very wise thing, "he that has a strong enough why can bear almost any how."<br /><br />We need a stronger why. Part of the appeal of Jordan Peterson is not the usual criticism that he makes "commonplaces sound profound" but that he makes commonplaces <i>attractive</i>. I know I should clean my room, he gave me a good enough to reason to lead to me actually doing it.<br /><br />A lot of the morality I was taught was a terrible sales job; you do it because you do it and you're awful if you don't. Ironically the Bible isn't really like that, God goes out of His way to make doing the right thing attractive, and the wrong thing ugly. The reason you can get past some horrors that may befall you is that the eternal weight of glory outweighs it. <br /><br />I had no idea courage felt better than not being courageous for a long time for example. That doing the right thing wasn't always some white knuckle bout of stress but could be an active pleasure. Interestingly enough, it's even better for your health, your nervous system responds differently if you're active under stress than if you're passive. <br /><br />We've lost our why, and even the guys who have a "why" tend to emphasize the pain and horror, making virtue a very stressful running away as opposed to a running toward.Hoyosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-65984350643894708992018-07-17T23:04:23.501+10:002018-07-17T23:04:23.501+10:00What I mean by that is that while you may believe ...<i>What I mean by that is that while you may believe in everything that they say, there is a tendency towards a belief in a system more than a belief in Christ.</i><br /><br />Yes, I think this is the essence of Pharasiacism. Mistaking the rules for the reason for the rules.<br /><br /><i>By "not protecting" the hierarchy, he protected the hierarchy.</i><br /><br />Absolutely correct.<br /><br /><br /><i>The real question is why are we so seemingly impotent? </i><br /><br />In my mind, the reasons for our impotence are many. But primarily we don't actually understand what we are fighting for, so in many instances we ally ourselves with elements, ideological and political, which undercut any efforts at renewal.<br /><br />In my mind, the primary task of the Right is to try and understand why religion, the bedrock of culture, has failed in the 20th C West. Unfortunately many in the Right see politics as the solution to life's problems, just like the Marxists.<br /><br />The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-75184331428391588332018-07-17T06:57:55.157+10:002018-07-17T06:57:55.157+10:00I'm leery of many Catholic traditionalists bec...I'm leery of many Catholic traditionalists because I see the same psychology of some fundamentalists. What I mean by that is that while you may believe in everything that they say, there is a tendency towards a belief in a system more than a belief in Christ. The conservative failure and the liberal failure of the church has frequently been at the behest of preserving a system. The system was the important thing, not the individual souls involved.<br /><br />Actual charity entails some common sense and fighting. In the abuse scandals, the diocese of Lincoln, Nebraska stands out as amazing. They had two priests accused and the bishop, not especially conservative as I understand it, investigated, defrocked the priests, turned them over to the authorities, and personally visited the families of the victims. You know, common sense from a man with a functioning soul, not especially outlandish. By "not protecting" the hierarchy, he protected the hierarchy. As opposed to a giant soul destroying tragedy and scandal, you just had a terrible thing happen that was immediately dealt with appropriately. My guess would be also that predators stayed away from a posting in the diocese; they would know their nonsense would not be tolerated.<br /><br />The real question is why are we so seemingly impotent? My theory is that we have neglected a reason not to be.<br />Hoyosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-77089169287323291522018-07-13T22:54:29.765+10:002018-07-13T22:54:29.765+10:00The homosexuals are why the church can't form ...<i>The homosexuals are why the church can't form a real response to the child sexual abuse issue. </i><br /><br />The problem is that the sexual abuse saga is <i>widespread</i> and it excludes the notion of some small cabal being a enabling factor. It's the heterosexual priests who have failed in their task.<br /><br />As for Socialism, I agree that there is far too much of it in the Church but the Itegralism of the past isn't its antidote. The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-74326523566054636322018-07-13T11:08:25.745+10:002018-07-13T11:08:25.745+10:00The homosexuals are why the church can't form ...The homosexuals are why the church can't form a real response to the child sexual abuse issue. The gay mafia doesn't have to be large as long as it's the group making decisions about shuffling abusers around instead of throwing them out.<br /><br />Socialists are always socialist first, and can't compartmentalize or sublimate their true beliefs in favor of historic Catholic teachings. Kentucky Headhunterhttp://whoresandale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-74239850021364403312018-07-12T22:52:29.940+10:002018-07-12T22:52:29.940+10:00@Kentucky,
I'm not sure what your getting at....@Kentucky,<br /><br />I'm not sure what your getting at.<br /><br />Firstly, with regard to homosexuals, there have been persistent rumors of a "gay mafia" within the Church and I'm inclined to believe the rumors. Though, I don't think this mafia is "large". Once again, it illustrates the point I was trying to make in that the Church's institutional response to moral evil in its ranks is severely lacking.<br /><br />Prior to the 1950's, large part's of the Catholic Church were <i>very</i> sympathetic to Fascism, a moral evil incompatible with the Church, post V2 large numbers of the clergy have swung to the Left and embraced the ethos of the SJW. But they're not forming doctrine and have been rebuked on many times. Liberation Theology, for instance, has been roundly condemned. The fact that the current Pope is civil to some of the theologians does in no way mean he condones their theology.<br /><br />I'm very hostile to socialist economics but I really don't care what a priest thinks about the economy as long as he teaches the Faith.The Social Pathologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12927698533626086780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29137904.post-69721840218665425092018-07-12T03:32:57.852+10:002018-07-12T03:32:57.852+10:00You don't mention either the homosexual or soc...You don't mention either the homosexual or socialist natures of large parts of the clergy in the Church. Why is that? Kentucky Headhunterhttp://whoresandale.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.com